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He’d probably be Latvia’s best ever player tbfOverhyped, overrated and average.
If he was from Latvia no one would think anything of him.
He’d probably be Latvia’s best ever player tbfOverhyped, overrated and average.
If he was from Latvia no one would think anything of him.
Yeah, but he's got no good attributes in dictating play or distribution. Everyone just calls him tidy with the ball and breaks up play very well. That is exactly what I would want from a CB, not from a midfielder.I dont argree, add in a great long range passer and you could be describing Michael Carrick. I also dont think you can compare international football with club football. Many a world class talent within the league has failed for England, not that I am saying I see him as that. I think forgetting the fee he would be a good signing, but you cant forget the fee and there are other players that are potentially better and a lot cheaper
Although his distribution is very simple, his weight of pass and awareness is good. By that analogy you wouldnt want Makelele, Fernandhino, BusquetsYeah, but he's got no good attributes in dictating play or distribution. Everyone just calls him tidy with the ball and breaks up play very well. That is exactly what I would want from a CB, not from a midfielder.
Busquets ?Although his distribution is very simple, his weight of pass and awareness is good. By that analogy you wouldnt want Makelele, Fernandhino, Busquets
Was meant to make an unfunny joke about Verpakovskis , here. Must have given up myself...He’d probably be Latvia’s best ever player tbf
Makelele was agile and quick and lot better going forward than people seem to remember. Rice doesn't posses those traits. Busquets and Fernandinhos distribution is streets ahead, I'm not really sure why you would use them as an example. I'd say he is more like Henderson in his distribution, but not as mobile.Although his distribution is very simple, his weight of pass and awareness is good. By that analogy you wouldnt want Makelele, Fernandhino, Busquets
Haha that's true, although Igor Stepanovs may have something to say about thatHe’d probably be Latvia’s best ever player tbf
That ability at 1.52 is what I like the most out of him - for him to play as a CDM but also as a third CB without us actually having to play 3CB's as a tactic. It gives us a fluidity and stability and I think he can really grow in to the role.Tweet
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Rice was a level above his teammates tonight against Spurs. If West Ham go down there’s no way he is staying there.
I was impressed by him for the first time tonight as well. Also liked how comfortable he is with both feet...Genuinely impressed me tonight. His performance away at Czech Republic has stuck with me and I haven't really rated him since. But he was good tonight, easy to forget he's only 21, has probably been a victim of his own success and hype.
We could use both a CB and a DM though, so in that regard he’d be an ideal aquisition.He played CB the game before and was class there. That should be his position. He's not a midfielder you're going to want in a side that dominates teams, it just so happens that West Hams midfield is crap and he's good enough on the ball to get into the midfield.
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Rice was a level above his teammates tonight against Spurs. If West Ham go down there’s no way he is staying there.
Totally agree!That ability at 1.52 is what I like the most out of him - for him to play as a CDM but also as a third CB without us actually having to play 3CB's as a tactic. It gives us a fluidity and stability and I think he can really grow in to the role.
A CDM/CB like him will bring the perfect fluidity to an attacking CM/CAM partnership of Pogba and Bruno in my opinion and is why I've not ruled him out alongside others who have showed glimpses of this like Zakaria.
Would be great if West Ham and Villa went down together, Rice and Grealish both available for reasonable fees would be an interesting proposition.Got fed up of him and his crab passing. But I really think there is a player there just waiting to play with better players.
Hopefully they go down and we can take a chance on him for cheaper than the ridiculous values quoted before.
I don't know. If he can break up play and spray the ball around like that from DM every week he'll be some player. He's only 21 so it'll be interesting to see how he develops.He played CB the game before and was class there. That should be his position. He's not a midfielder you're going to want in a side that dominates teams, it just so happens that West Hams midfield is crap and he's good enough on the ball to get into the midfield.
I agree. Similar to Dier. Can be an ok midfield player for a below average PL-side, but potential to be a great defender for a top PL-club.He played CB the game before and was class there. That should be his position. He's not a midfielder you're going to want in a side that dominates teams, it just so happens that West Hams midfield is crap and he's good enough on the ball to get into the midfield.
We seemed to be linked to him last summer when it looked like Matic was leaving,once Matic was staying then the links quickly died down.I'm surprised we are not linked to him more and linked to Grealish instead. Since Matic is getting old and lacking pace and energy we should be looking for a DM that is suitable for Bruno and Pogba. I get the feeling Ole wants to give that role to Mctomimay. These last few games should actually tell us whether we need a DM for next season or not.
In a mid of Pogba and Fernandes does he need to be though. I'd be happy enough with them getting adequate defensive cover, for him to win the ball and lay it off, easy pass to either and let them build the attacks. Ideally you want all players to be excellent on the ball, but he'll improve he's still only 21. To put that into perspective, Martial is 24 and we still talk about how he can improve.Not good enough on the ball to be a midfielder for Man Utd imo. Decent player though.
Almost seems a different player, I've always been impressed for his defensive contribution much like the English Ndidi.He’s improved with currying the ball out
I actually thought he was pretty good on the ball against Tottenham. Good range of passing with both feats and a few great long balls. If I think about the silly mistakes Fred is doing when in possession he looked more assured on the ball. But I didn't see him a lot this season but I was pretty impressed with him against Tottenham. Looked sharp and was running a lot.Not good enough on the ball to be a midfielder for Man Utd imo. Decent player though.
I think he signed a new contract recently so thats probably whyI'm surprised we are not linked to him more and linked to Grealish instead. Since Matic is getting old and lacking pace and energy we should be looking for a DM that is suitable for Bruno and Pogba. I get the feeling Ole wants to give that role to Mctomimay. These last few games should actually tell us whether we need a DM for next season or not.
I agree with this, I thought he looked very good against Spurs, was one of West Ham's best players and he's not helped by playing alongside Noble.I actually thought he was pretty good on the ball against Tottenham. Good range of passing with both feats and a few great long balls. If I think about the silly mistakes Fred is doing when in possession he looked more assured on the ball. But I didn't see him a lot this season but I was pretty impressed with him against Tottenham. Looked sharp and was running a lot.
Thats what I thought watching him yesterday. He might be neat but most his passes were back or side ways.Not good enough on the ball to be a midfielder for Man Utd imo. Decent player though.
I think Carrick is the master behind our midfields improvement this season, we can see it with Fred and McT, hell even with Matic, they have all shown massive improvements this season especially since Ole stepped in and gave Carrick more responsibility.Would take him. Things have changed for us in midfield and he has improved a bit this season. If Carrick works with him on his passing, i believe he will be good.
So you’re in flavour of a dealAlmost seems a different player, I've always been impressed for his defensive contribution much like the English Ndidi.
Absolutely, I think Rice has been a genuine target for the club but the obstacle being the transfer fee required.So you’re in flavour of a deal
So do you think he could be a pilau of the defence or steam-ing into tackles in midfield?Absolutely, I think Rice has been a genuine target for the club but the obstacle being the transfer fee required.
This. we dont need a passer of the ball - we need an anchor man, a player who has the ability to guard the defence behind him and the midfield in front of him.In a mid of Pogba and Fernandes does he need to be though. I'd be happy enough with them getting adequate defensive cover, for him to win the ball and lay it off, easy pass to either and let them build the attacks. Ideally you want all players to be excellent on the ball, but he'll improve he's still only 21. To put that into perspective, Martial is 24 and we still talk about how he can improve.
I see what you did there, bravo sir!He’s improved with currying the ball out
Glad someone noticed!Shame him CM partner was Noble, he was utter trash
I see what you did there, bravo sir!
I would still prefer the DM to be a very good passer because that allows us to keep the other 2 further forward as opposed to cutting back for a simple short pass, similar with having good ball playing defenders vs Smalling. The more defensive mid for United has always been a very good passer, Keane and Carrick stand out during our most successful times. They are difficult to find though.In a mid of Pogba and Fernandes does he need to be though. I'd be happy enough with them getting adequate defensive cover, for him to win the ball and lay it off, easy pass to either and let them build the attacks. Ideally you want all players to be excellent on the ball, but he'll improve he's still only 21. To put that into perspective, Martial is 24 and we still talk about how he can improve.