But he's still young and learning. It wouldn't be a bad idea to settle on a manager again and start a new era just like you did with SAF, would it? Take the hit and swallow a few bad seasons to reap a decade of glory kinda thing. I think many clubs lose themselves in trying to chase the short term success and losing sight of long term success.
'Der Klassiker' : Bayern München vs. Borussia Dortmund
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Based on what?
He took over a newly promoted Mainz in August and without net spending any money kept them away from relegation battle at all times and even made it into EL twice.
Then he took over a Dortmund side that just had a horrible season and kept them right on the heels of Bayern's Pep for most of the season, falling three points short of Dortmund's all time points record, despite prioritizing other competitions for the past 5 matches of the season. Under J K the team always struggled with their build up and breaking down ultra defensive opponents, a couple of weeks into Tuchel's tenure they were opening up buses with ease.
Comparing Tuchels last season to Klopp's last three seasons at the Club they peformed +31 / +7 / +12 on points total.
How do you constantly overachieve like that if you don't know your tactics?
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Pep was unlucky that robbery was almost never fully fit during the most important stages of the Champions League.
Bayern actually need to spend some money if they want to replace those two. They were invaluable in 2012/13.
If Dortmund wins tomorrow they are 7 points ahead of Bayern.
Finally this deserves a push. Let the fight over the name of this thread begin again.
Finally this deserves a push. Let the fight over the name of this thread begin again.
Dortmund 2-0.
I think Dortmund are gonna beat Bayern, and that will probably be the end of Kovac?
Yes. No.
It feels like Dortmund should win. But Bayern being Bayern, you just don't know what will happen. I've not watched any Bayern matches this season, but I have Dortmund's, and they have impressed me so far. Btw it's an absolute disgrace that a club like HSV are run so poorly. They probably will be promoted after this season, but they shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place. Talk about long suffering fans.
I really hope Dortmund stretches the lead. The bundesliga could use a new champion, so next season bayern buys a couple of his best players again
Havent watch this fixture since Klopp left.
Dortmund have looked very good this season and should be a competitive game tomorrow.
Looking forward to seeing Sancho too.
Dortmund have looked very good this season and should be a competitive game tomorrow.
Looking forward to seeing Sancho too.
I think german football needs a different winner alright.
Really looking forward to this. Not watched a Der Klassiker for quite some time!
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Robben didn't travel to Dortmund due to problems with his knee.
Given that he's been a proper boogey-man for Dortmund in these matches that's sort of big news.
I also wonder how being left out of DIE MANNSCHAFT for the first time in years will affect Boateng in DER KLASSIKER.
A good warm-up derby to get us ready for the main event tomorrow.
Bürki is out for Dortmund. He has been very solid for them this season.
Hitz is a good enough shot stopper imho, but if Bayern try to aggressively disrupt Dortmund's build-up the difference in ball-playing ability will hurt.
God I hate that name "Der Klassiker"... daft internet age.
Rivals "die Mannschaft" in cringeworthiness. But the DFB actually used this wording in marketing, so it edges it for me. At least I've never heard "der Klassiker" from a German person.
Dortmund will win, unless someone has a mare defensively. Their attack should be too much
If Dortmund wins this, they will win the Bundesliga. I know it's still early in the season but with a 7 point lead and a superior goal difference, and Bayern's inconsistency this season, this victory will be a big psychological boost for Dortmund and I can see the lead widening. With that being said, I think this will be a score draw. Too much at stake for Bayern Munich.
What time does this kick off?
5.30pm
Cheers.
Annoyingly the same time as the prem game. Its almost as though the German football authorities don't care about my viewing habits.
Nah. It would make Dortmund the clear favourite, but there's still over 20 matches to play and Reus, Witsel getting injured or Bayern signing a new coach/player in the winter window can change things drastically. I also wouldn't take it for granted that such a lead would have a positive effect on Dortmund psychologically, there's no telling how the young players will take that increased pressure.
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Somehow i believe it will be a boring draw. hopefully i am wrong.
Surely this fixture is more appealing than Palace vs Spuds?
Especially with Dortmund currently flying and Bayern starting the season very inconsistently.
Not really. I don't care who wins this game.
I'll watch games where I am a neutral but much prefer to have someone to root for (or against).
So Robben is injured and now it has been conveniently leaked to Bild (like clockwork) that James at the very least is not starting, after showing up late yesterday.
Is Jadon Sancho well known or rated in Germany? It'll be interesting to see how he performs. This could be his biggest match to date.
Too bad Robben is injured. He's usually rather good against BVB. Ah well.
Will a thrashing get Kovacs fired?
Already having locker room rumors.
Already having locker room rumors.
Weird question. Are you asking if people rate/know one of the best performing players of the current BL season? Obvious answer is yes they do.
Dortmund starting without Alcacer, Delaney, Guerreiro and Pulisic...Weigl starts though. And Bruun Larsen too...
What time does this kick off in the UK?
50 minutes
Perfect, cheers.
Not weird. Sometimes talented young foreign players take awhile to become well known and rated in the UK. And it's so rare that young British players go abroad to a good club and succeed, so it's interesting to hear perspectives of fans who watch them every week.
I'll watch today. I imagine BD is favourite since they're at home.