This has been so bad I've decided to do something actually fun. If the game mattered I'd persevere the terrible football, but it doesn't.
Dirty, negative football
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Players will know that it means nothing to the manager, the fans and probably most of them. They'll also not want to get injured.
If we open up, and get absolutely battered which is highly probably with this team out, surely you'd expect that affect confidence more than losing this on a whimper by a goal or two?
If you seriously think that's what would occur then we should end the discussion here, really.
Seriously though, we're so far off the pace today that it's embarrassing to watch.
"Lads, it's United" will probably be uttered by Poch in the dressing room at the break, because he's clearly not happy that they're just one up.
You think if we opened up against this Spurs team, at The Lane with that defence and midfield we'd come off better than we are now? Genuine question. Not being obtuse or argumentative , genuinely interested in how you come to that opinion
only sing when we are winning fan are you?
I think we could end up getting smashed if we went for it with this team. Jones and Smalling are struggling to defend when we are playing compact...
Na he's probably an adult with other things to do. Happens sometimes. If you're not at the ground and it's a game like this, can hardly blame him
This mismatched team isnt good enough, its not down to tactics.
Who actually cares? United are one of those on the beach side. Nothing more
Who actually cares? United are one of those on the beach side. Nothing more
This wouldn't be so bad if it didn't sum up most of our league performances since beating Leicester 3-0.
From that game onwards we've been absolute trash in the league in terms of performances bar maybe 3 games.
From that game onwards we've been absolute trash in the league in terms of performances bar maybe 3 games.
The simple fact of watching football? Football isn't like a computer game, you know. By pushing onto a team, they lose their ability to carve you open because they become pinned back themselves. Namely, the fullbacks would be affected the most, and they're quite possibly the key component for Spurs - by allowing their fullbacks such space out wide by barely attacking, Eriksen is able to roam around freely. Look right now, they've hit a bit of a lull in the past 5 minutes or so. Attacking them in such a quiet spell could quite easily change the climate of the game.
Is that four seasons straight with the end of the season being a complete write-off? You genuinely feel for the traveling fans, who've spent good money to support the team. Heck, even those poor souls paying for a pay TV subscription to watch us are being ripped off at the moment 
You'd think playing for a starting spot in the Europa final would be a motivation, but it seems not.
You'd think playing for a starting spot in the Europa final would be a motivation, but it seems not.
We look like we've solely been coached on how to prevent Spurs scoring with zero thought for how to get a goal ourselves.
Sick of this garbage in the second half of the season. I mean, don't get me wrong, this second string isn't good enough anyway but what happened to trying to play football the right way?
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It's embarrassing, could understand if I was watching stoke, West Brom ect, but we are Man Utd. Attack Attack Attack
I don't think we've been defensive this match compared to other big games, just outplayed. We've got a bunch of players who have no rhythm playing together.
These last two games are a new low for the club.
We're worse than under Moyes now. It's embarrassing.
There's nothing to play for, yet we've been so defensive. I'd rather get beat going for it then being so defensive.
Didn't you get the memo? We've been playing great football
The quality of our football at present (and I'm referring to the last two months or so in particular) is as bad as anything we've seen since Ferguson left the club.
Van Gaal and Moyes would be slaughtered for these kind of performances.
Van Gaal and Moyes would be slaughtered for these kind of performances.
Really have no idea what the tactics are. The chelsea game feels like it was in a different season.
This is genuinely worse than Van Gaal could come up with.
DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFEND is the motto more associated with this team.
David's saves has not been as many as last 2 seasons when you can make a video of more than 15 minutes of him saving us. This season I don't think any video of his saves will exceed 5 minutes. I don't know from when did you bring this point.
Don't know but it do proves they are bunch of losers. LVG not taking an action against them is something to blame him for, too. He let them escape with their mentality for the whole season, while Jose is hammering the players to improve their mentality or leave.
The difference in points tell everything imo. Also this has nothing of finding excuses for Jose. Even if Jose fails it won't make LVG a success. I hope this is clear.
This is worse than the "Philosophy".
I agree. We're probably creating less chances with a more negative approach to the game.
Van Gaal was regularly beating these sides.
But we created lots of chances against Burnley back in October, so we can still repeat we create lots ad nauseum.
We've regressed to levels Moyes even couldn't achieve. Not knowing how to play is still better than a lack of ambition to win; that is just sad. Have some respect for the club you play for and don't hide behind excuses when you can't beat the most average of teams.
Why start the likes of Lingard and Rooney? Sad that our club pays 400k a week for those two to make our team mediocre. Start some youth players. We literally have nothing to lose anymore in the PL, yet we play scared.
Why start the likes of Lingard and Rooney? Sad that our club pays 400k a week for those two to make our team mediocre. Start some youth players. We literally have nothing to lose anymore in the PL, yet we play scared.
I thought we were decent in that 1st half against Tottenham...apparently im the only one
Spurs came out stronger than us so they were the better team in the first 20 mins, but we were creating some good chances, Martial had a few opportunities to test the keeper but fluffed his lines and Bailly had the best chance of the game and bottled it by passing instead of shooting.
Spurs came out stronger than us so they were the better team in the first 20 mins, but we were creating some good chances, Martial had a few opportunities to test the keeper but fluffed his lines and Bailly had the best chance of the game and bottled it by passing instead of shooting.
One day, we will play good enjoyable football. One day. This is not that day, maybe not next season but one day.
Hold on lads, don't despair. We're going to defend this 2-0 defeat.
Love Jose, but this is just not good enough.
Don't forget.... Philosophy
Hard to defend this kind of football. I try to remain positive and content that things will get better next season, but its hard work to try and justify the need to play this kind of football. The faster the likes of Rooney, Jones,Smalling etc fecks off, great.But if Mourinho even after getting his desired targets makes us play this tumescent, unattractive shite way of football more and more fans will turn against him.
I've never turned a game off before and we've played some of the worst football I've seen in recent years from any team. It's not that. It's the fact that José's shown he's not bothered about this game with the tactics on show and, having had a bad week or two, I'm not in the mood to watch us run around like headless chickens failing to string a few passes together. At the end of the day if José isn't treating this match of any importance it's meaningless to me.
I'm going to do something productive instead.
Rooney, Smalling and Jones "fecking off" don't solve anything.
They have next to no bearing on our wider, general inability to play attacking football. And simply buying Antoine Griezmann isn't going to solve anything either. New players, same shit.
Yep. I'd stress it is only since February but that doesn't make it acceptable.
I think what a lot of people find hard to read or listen to, is the idea that we will definitely see an improvement next season with added additions.
I can't be the only person who thinks it's perfectly possible that Griezmann etc will arrive and we'll still be playing this shit.
I can't be the only person who thinks it's perfectly possible that Griezmann etc will arrive and we'll still be playing this shit.
If he doesn't improve next season attacking wise I'll start to lose faith. I still think our players are trash but if he doesn't find replacements or improve this I'll begin to think it's at least got something to do with the tactics. Zlatan and Rashford are the only two players we have offensively that I'm excited to see on the team sheet each time. One is injured and the other is in need of a rest
And we will here nonsense about how Griezmann was a "luxury player" at Atletico and Mourinho still needs better players.