As far as I can recall I have never called anyone a spastic on here, or in real life for that matter.
I have admitedly called myself a spazz on many occasions...
I have admitedly called myself a spazz on many occasions...
Disgrace...
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indeedTheRedFlag said:i'm a spastic too
Why is this spastic thread still going on?
Is it because spastics like me keep making spastic posts?
Is it because spastics like me keep making spastic posts?
snootyjim said:
This thread is greatWhen he gets banned could we put this in classic threads? or is that spastic?
Sultan said:
Hello all!! How have you been?....... Missed me? 
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Actually that particular post you are referring to was do with highlighting the differences between insults and discrimination (eg racism) - in that an insult isnt necassarily racist by default just because of its direction.
Pardon me if im wrong but i havent anywhere implied that people are discriminating against diadvantaged people just using terminlogy that is offensive towards them - do you see the diifference?
Funnily enough ceratin people have said that my comparitive with racist terminology isnt applicable since these words always had an "oppressive undermeaning" to them or something like that!?! That curiously enough isnt true, the word "Nigger" has its origins in a word used to descrivbe - 'people originating or deriving from the area surrounding the river Niger - W Africa'. This phrase was in fact commonly used purely as a descriptive term but many people including many English speaking Africans to describe their kinfolk. When you hear African-Americans saying that they are "taking the word Nigger back" as a way of justifying their own use - this is what they are referring to.
Aagin the word "Paki" doesnt have malicious or oppresive origins!?!? It was a generic, shortened, descriptive phrase used by Anglo-Saxons to identify people of Asian origin. Funnily enough the furour came from Indian people and not Pakistanis - Indian people have always deep down viewed themselves as not only socially superior but in fact inherently superior to people from Pakistan. This obviously has strong links to the caste sytem. They strongly resented being put in the same boat so to speak as their supposed inferior Pakistani cousins!!!! As evidence of this trait - the word is still used today particularly by Indian youth as a way of insulting someone from Pakistan.
I say again my thread is basically about double standards, in that someone may use an insulting phrase and be labelled racist whereas someone could use an insulting phrase and it be labelled "friendly banter" when in reality there is no difference between the two - do you see what i mean?? Im not trying to change "peoples ideas" or be "overly PC" - far from it - just asking for a level playing field - which is actually the very antithesis of PC behaviour.
An excellent example is Tiger Woods - he quite recently mad a comment that he played like a "spazza" live on TV - because of the mutated nature of American English in the US this is accfeptable terminology. But in the UK there was actually an outcry against what he said by various groups as being offensive and he went onto make an apology to those groups in the UK.
Remeber all im asking for is a level playing field - nothing more - if you feel that is unreasonable then we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
(RE - HECTIC 525)
Actually that particular post you are referring to was do with highlighting the differences between insults and discrimination (eg racism) - in that an insult isnt necassarily racist by default just because of its direction.
Pardon me if im wrong but i havent anywhere implied that people are discriminating against diadvantaged people just using terminlogy that is offensive towards them - do you see the diifference?
Funnily enough ceratin people have said that my comparitive with racist terminology isnt applicable since these words always had an "oppressive undermeaning" to them or something like that!?! That curiously enough isnt true, the word "Nigger" has its origins in a word used to descrivbe - 'people originating or deriving from the area surrounding the river Niger - W Africa'. This phrase was in fact commonly used purely as a descriptive term but many people including many English speaking Africans to describe their kinfolk. When you hear African-Americans saying that they are "taking the word Nigger back" as a way of justifying their own use - this is what they are referring to.
Aagin the word "Paki" doesnt have malicious or oppresive origins!?!? It was a generic, shortened, descriptive phrase used by Anglo-Saxons to identify people of Asian origin. Funnily enough the furour came from Indian people and not Pakistanis - Indian people have always deep down viewed themselves as not only socially superior but in fact inherently superior to people from Pakistan. This obviously has strong links to the caste sytem. They strongly resented being put in the same boat so to speak as their supposed inferior Pakistani cousins!!!! As evidence of this trait - the word is still used today particularly by Indian youth as a way of insulting someone from Pakistan.
I say again my thread is basically about double standards, in that someone may use an insulting phrase and be labelled racist whereas someone could use an insulting phrase and it be labelled "friendly banter" when in reality there is no difference between the two - do you see what i mean?? Im not trying to change "peoples ideas" or be "overly PC" - far from it - just asking for a level playing field - which is actually the very antithesis of PC behaviour.
An excellent example is Tiger Woods - he quite recently mad a comment that he played like a "spazza" live on TV - because of the mutated nature of American English in the US this is accfeptable terminology. But in the UK there was actually an outcry against what he said by various groups as being offensive and he went onto make an apology to those groups in the UK.
Remeber all im asking for is a level playing field - nothing more - if you feel that is unreasonable then we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
One of the judges on Australian Idol has caused a minor fuss by calling someone a "full Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime".
He is a bit of a sp.........
He is a bit of a sp.........
I have to say, it has been flavour of the month for several months now. I was wondering about that the other day, no one used to call anyone "spastic". It appears to be the only resort of most on here these days.
It was a lot funnier when each person had their own label. Haha, does anyone remember "ladyboy" getting into a strop? I can't even remember who "ladyboy" was, everyone seems to be called just spastic these days.
Boring
It was a lot funnier when each person had their own label. Haha, does anyone remember "ladyboy" getting into a strop? I can't even remember who "ladyboy" was, everyone seems to be called just spastic these days.
Boring
DA2, like a few others have said your argument is well intentioned but you bring it down by using ridiculous examples. The kind of racism that you seem to endeavour to equate to the use of the word spastic as an insult are ridiculous.
If someone started a thread such as "What are spastics for? We should kill them at birth." then this would equate to your exagerated examples. No one has made any derrogatory remarks about the disabled, hence the use and context of the word has changed because it is applied to behaviour. I understand your point that this could cause offence to disabled persons but the fact is that you have appointed yourself mouthpiece for all of them and however well meant your argument is it has been lost in your lack of reasoning to support it.DA2 said:
You ask for a level playing field but it cant be level as the meanings of the words themselves have different levels. For example if say I called someone a Nigger or Paki in any thread, there is no other context I can use it in other then its racist form. However, if I respond to a post and call the poster a spastic or retard, there are different contexts and the poster will understand that too. You can't banter about with the word Nigger or Paki, but you can with retard, cnut, spastic, bitch, twat, whore knob etc. Im sorry I see where your coming from but its not going to happen, if the word 'spastic' is going to be a banned word then so would gay/bitch/cnut/retard etc as all words could cause offence. The problem is I don't think anyone else has taken real offence to these words as they havent been taken it there most insulting form. I guess we agree to disagree as well then.DA2 said:Hello all!! How have you been?....... Missed me?
(RE - HECTIC 525)
Actually that particular post you are referring to was do with highlighting the differences between insults and discrimination (eg racism) - in that an insult isnt necassarily racist by default just because of its direction.
Pardon me if im wrong but i havent anywhere implied that people are discriminating against diadvantaged people just using terminlogy that is offensive towards them - do you see the diifference?
Funnily enough ceratin people have said that my comparitive with racist terminology isnt applicable since these words always had an "oppressive undermeaning" to them or something like that!?! That curiously enough isnt true, the word "Nigger" has its origins in a word used to descrivbe - 'people originating or deriving from the area surrounding the river Niger - W Africa'. This phrase was in fact commonly used purely as a descriptive term but many people including many English speaking Africans to describe their kinfolk. When you hear African-Americans saying that they are "taking the word Nigger back" as a way of justifying their own use - this is what they are referring to.
Aagin the word "Paki" doesnt have malicious or oppresive origins!?!? It was a generic, shortened, descriptive phrase used by Anglo-Saxons to identify people of Asian origin. Funnily enough the furour came from Indian people and not Pakistanis - Indian people have always deep down viewed themselves as not only socially superior but in fact inherently superior to people from Pakistan. This obviously has strong links to the caste sytem. They strongly resented being put in the same boat so to speak as their supposed inferior Pakistani cousins!!!! As evidence of this trait - the word is still used today particularly by Indian youth as a way of insulting someone from Pakistan.
I say again my thread is basically about double standards, in that someone may use an insulting phrase and be labelled racist whereas someone could use an insulting phrase and it be labelled "friendly banter" when in reality there is no difference between the two - do you see what i mean?? Im not trying to change "peoples ideas" or be "overly PC" - far from it - just asking for a level playing field - which is actually the very antithesis of PC behaviour.
An excellent example is Tiger Woods - he quite recently mad a comment that he played like a "spazza" live on TV - because of the mutated nature of American English in the US this is accfeptable terminology. But in the UK there was actually an outcry against what he said by various groups as being offensive and he went onto make an apology to those groups in the UK.
Remeber all im asking for is a level playing field - nothing more - if you feel that is unreasonable then we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Also your examples are ridiculous mate, you said one about genicide on non-whites or something to that effect and your point was if people are using this and that and it doesn't get banned then why cant I say 'genicide for all ethnic minorities'. Now that is ridiculous because noone said 'Kill and burn all the spastics', if someone did say that then fair play thats just disgusting, but to reply to a thread and say 'Shut it Diarra you spastic' cannot be seen the same as 'Murder all asians' now can it?
Who cares about words getting lost in translation. If a Brit calls an American a fag, they should realise it's not a big deal. For feck's sake, people get so deep and meaningful over words that just aren't.
Spastomongs.
So are you.marcosdeto said:
we are all spastics arn't we? nobody is perfect apart from Michael Jackson who has 100% perfection in his body and face outline (saw it on a documentery last night about plastic surgery)
Thats plastic, not spastic.
one time that i agree with you and you attack me, you are obviously jealous of my good looks, charm, wit and wealth.TheRedFlag said:
you are a spastic
oooooops
dont call me a spastic, you spasticmarcosdeto said:
no,TheRedFlag said:
YOU are a spastic
spastic
sorry DA2, no offence intended
No, You're the spastic, you're from a third world country, they're all spastics in third world countries.marcosdeto said:
Sorry DA2, no offence intended, spastic.
You spastics.
Sorry DA2, spastication intended.
Sorry DA2, spastication intended.
not everyone from a third world country is a spasticTheRedFlag said:
errrrmmmm
ok, maybe you are right ....
well ... but there are some spastics in first world countries, you are a living proof
spastic...
again, sorry DA2.
I'm no more a spastic than you are, Spastic.marcosdeto said:
snootyjim and Theredflag=1st world spasticssnootyjim said:
TheRedFag.
Sorry, DA2, no offence intended to you and the rest of the homosexuals.
Sorry, DA2, no offence intended to you and the rest of the homosexuals.
Plastics
Sorry no offence intended Mr Jackson
Sorry no offence intended Mr Jackson
I find the use of the term "cocksucker" offensive and stupid. You don;t want to give girls the wrong idea (i.e. cocksucker=bad). In fact, we should begin using it as a term of praise, reserved for the best humanity has to offer.
mate you are a geniousDr. Dwayne said:
Thanks Dude.marcosdeto said:mate you are a genious
Sultan said:
Good idea.Dr. Dwayne said:
I salute you, cocksucker.
Well a start would be for the Mods to stop calling people 'spastics'. That wouldn't be too tough would it?golden_blunder said:
Well, I don't...but thanks.jasonrh said:
What a bunch of Joeys!
That's deeply offensive to someone called Joey somewhere
and baby kangaroosnoodlehair said:
"Stop offending us!"
If you went to school in the seventies then you'll understand.
They'd have to delete half of their posts.ralphie88 said:Well a start would be for the Mods to stop calling people 'spastics'. That wouldn't be too tough would it?
Which would be spastic, mongified, and possibly racist.
Grinner said:
jasonrh said:
Were there more people called Joey back then?Grinner said:
Only one with Deacon as a surname.
I think.
I think.
Well i have to say this debate has genuinely been most envigorating - just seen that we have racked up 199 posts for this thread - an admin forum record i believe (and my secret reason for starting it! ) - anyone fancy the honour of the 200th?!
) - anyone fancy the honour of the 200th?!