Part-ex for Pau Torres IMO. We'll pay the release clause for Torres (either £43m or £50m depending on where you read it) and then negotiate a deal with Villareal for Bailly to make up for some of the shortfall from the former deal (I'd say £30m considering the new contract).
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Bailly is one of the drifters too
Just posted as such, it was a while back I think.
I was really hoping the last few weeks with Maguire out where we've looked a shambles at the back and Bailly in particular has been an absolute joke, would put an end to this stupid idea Bailly is our best defender.
But clearly not, some people bizarrely still believe it.
I guess after this, Ole can’t even put him on the bench.
Physically gifted?! He’s the weakest player of them all, a little knock and he’s out for weeks, over and over again. He’s fast, that’s about it.
Baily's reputation is amazing for someone who's so frequently on the treatment table.
"physically gifted and bravest defender we've got" 
bloody hell give me strength. Maguire is brave, Bailly is just a bit mad, like Rojo, thoughtlessly throws himself around like a maniac. Physically gifted means so little too, physically he's made of glass.
bloody hell give me strength. Maguire is brave, Bailly is just a bit mad, like Rojo, thoughtlessly throws himself around like a maniac. Physically gifted means so little too, physically he's made of glass.He can go if he wants, Make room for a proper CB and Tuanzebe can be 4th. Axel has looked much better this season anyway. Why did he even sign a contract? It's obvious he's not starting ahead of Lindelof, let alone if we sign a CB.
Wow so many grown man losing their shit over this It shows how easy to manipulate people really.
And to be fair to him he has a point because even when he played well Ole turned to Lindelöf. After the Villa where he played a blinder and made that legendary block, Ole preferred Lindelöf next game at Etihad in a Cup semi final defeat and basically told him no matter how good he plays Lindelöf is the first choice alongside Maguire.
He's injury prone which is a shame because he's a great athletic defender when fit but I get his frustrations with selection tbh. You can't be happy when you're better than your teammate for your position but that gets overlooked. Ole did him no favours tbh. And to the ones who'd like to see Lindelöf - Tuanzebe in the final, I'd like to remind you the passive performance of Lindelöf vs Sevilla last year. Is that really what you want again?
It shows how easy to manipulate people really.And to be fair to him he has a point because even when he played well Ole turned to Lindelöf. After the Villa where he played a blinder and made that legendary block, Ole preferred Lindelöf next game at Etihad in a Cup semi final defeat and basically told him no matter how good he plays Lindelöf is the first choice alongside Maguire.
He's injury prone which is a shame because he's a great athletic defender when fit but I get his frustrations with selection tbh. You can't be happy when you're better than your teammate for your position but that gets overlooked. Ole did him no favours tbh. And to the ones who'd like to see Lindelöf - Tuanzebe in the final, I'd like to remind you the passive performance of Lindelöf vs Sevilla last year. Is that really what you want again?
Has one blinding game in 12. His last great performance was against Wolves at the turn of the year. That’s not the kind of consistency we need. Victor is not brilliant by any means but is a whole lot more consistent
Bizarrely.... or more accurately.... you dishonestly mischarachterize what I've written. You've even bolded my EXACT point.
Can't believe he's been here FIVE seasons and only played 105 games!
38 of those in year 1, meaning averaging around 14 a season since!
38 of those in year 1, meaning averaging around 14 a season since!
Glass is expensive"physically gifted and bravest defender we've got"
I think its an accurate statement. Like you allude to though those two things alone do not make a good or great defender. I'd say the two most important things are reading of the game and decision making with physical attributes a close third. Of course if you include availability and fitness as a part of physically gifted the statement becomes false and you could argue Maguire is our most physically gifted center back."physically gifted and bravest defender we've got"
What a twist.
Shows what a heavy schedule it’s been when such reliable fit players like him are needing treatment.
The contract was just to sell him on and get some money in to help us probably with his replacement.
Why will people spend money on a crock, leave alone a crock on a new contract who will demand higher selling price
Aye that worked brilliantly with Phil Jones. Bailly you'd think would be easier to sell but if he's barely ever fit, there's not too much difference really. Bailly can't be trusted.
Wait, did this kung fu clown said this today of all of the days? Think we play some game tomorrow if I'm not mistaken?
Why do we have so many players who are over payed, over hyped, brainless and careless.
Illnesses are always included in those lists
He wants to be first choice in the treatment room, but Phil Jones has a towel on all the beds.
Yeah he's so brave yet every time he gets even the slightest knock he doesn't play. Contrast that to Lindelof playing with a bad back, Maguire playing with knocks and others in the squad like Rashford playing with shoulder and ankle injuries. Testicular fortitude indeed.
Eric's been as injury prone under Solskjaer as he was in Mourinho's 2nd and 3rd seasons.
Nice sarcasm
Yeah sometimes, other times not so much.
If he could stay fit for 5 minutes he'd get more playing time.
I’m surprised some of the posts here feel we’ll get anywhere close to 30mil for him.
We won't get much over 20 if that I reckon.
Fecking hell. Is he serious? The guy's injured for 3/4 of most seasons and has the audacity to come out and say that. Players do too much talking nowadays and as with the case with Bailly, very little action.
If he were to go tomorrow, then we wouldn't miss him. Decent when he comes in but nowhere near reliable.
Think that confirms it now, regards who starts the final. Maybe he's trying to put pressure on Ole but he has no right to say what he said, especially given his shite injury record.
Next season, we should be looking to get a starter CB to partner Maguire, with Lindelof and Tuanzebe as backup.
Or Ole may be happy with Maguire and Lindelof, with Tuanzebe and new left-footed centre back coming in (Badiashile, Botman, Carmo).
If he were to go tomorrow, then we wouldn't miss him. Decent when he comes in but nowhere near reliable.
Think that confirms it now, regards who starts the final. Maybe he's trying to put pressure on Ole but he has no right to say what he said, especially given his shite injury record.
Next season, we should be looking to get a starter CB to partner Maguire, with Lindelof and Tuanzebe as backup.
Or Ole may be happy with Maguire and Lindelof, with Tuanzebe and new left-footed centre back coming in (Badiashile, Botman, Carmo).
Only if you free your mind of all the times he's cost us with his atrocious positioning
I just wish we could have gotten a sign that this would happen.
Yup, 10-15 after a long of haggling
Always had a soft spot for him. Comes across like a proper feckwit recently. To come out with this one day before a EL final says it all.
What did he twist now?
I can't see how we would trick someone into paying any money, irrelevant of talent, he's on fairly high wages for what he has done in his career, is 27 now so can't call it "potential" anymore, between probably £80 to £100k a week basic.
Unless he is willing to take a huge pay cut, nobody will pay any money for him unless he stays fit, it's that simple. Not sure what it is on here but I regularly see people say we will get £30m for Jesse, £10 for Matic etc it's all frankly insane.
Unless he is willing to take a huge pay cut, nobody will pay any money for him unless he stays fit, it's that simple. Not sure what it is on here but I regularly see people say we will get £30m for Jesse, £10 for Matic etc it's all frankly insane.
Reckon Ole named the team at lunchtime today, then?
Not saying you specifically . You still get people trying to argue he's our best defender though, especially online.
Bloody hell I had to double check that, can't believe he's 27 already. Time flies when you're barely fit, doesn't it?
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