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AgreeMoyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho were not that long ago. I was ambivalent about Ole.
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AgreeMoyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho were not that long ago. I was ambivalent about Ole.
Yeh I agree, I wish we would just announce that he is leaving at the end of the season. I'm actually worried that Ineos haven't actually made up their mind yet, which would be crazy.Nothing stopping us announcing a new manager search for next season.
Not giving him a contract extension is doing the same thing just not openly.
fecking off this abomination of a manager doesn't mean we shouldn't or won't change player material.He should be sacked, but the problem is that players like Rashford will be given another chance again. So many of these players need binning and they won't with another manager.
Useless stats. Results are all that matters.
Only happens if the club is stupid.He should be sacked, but the problem is that players like Rashford will be given another chance again. So many of these players need binning and they won't with another manager.
He put on Danish and Brazilian international’s against a fecking Championship team, who were two of the most experienced players on our bench.His substitutions changed the game.
And he can't react to tactical changes made by the opposition manager. In this case a middling Championship manager.
Nothing stopping us announcing a new manager search for next season.
Not giving him a contract extension is doing the same thing just not openly.
We announce he's been unexpectedly called back to his home planet.Yeh I agree, I wish we would just announce that he is leaving at the end of the season. I'm actually worried that Ineos haven't actually made up their mind yet, which would be crazy.
Honestly, this feels different. Moyes wasn't the right fit, for sure. But I didn't hate the football to the same extent as this. Van Gaal tried to employ a certain style that didn't work and it came off as boring, but he had redeeming qualities. I didn't actively dislike him. Mourinho had his moments, but it wasn't the right direction for us for the long term. This time around is just different. This is a much lower level of performance. I am looking forward to ETH going much more than the other managers, and I have been feeling that way for much longer/earlier in the season.Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho were not that long ago. I was ambivalent about Ole.
Let's do a reverse Spurs and employ Jose in time for the final.
At least you know he'll drop Rashford.Wouldn't be against him coming back as an interim honestly.
If they sack ETH then a new manager is going to be given a chance to work with these players and make their own mind up.Only happens if the club is stupid.
Players that were a disgrace under Ole and Rangnick are still here under a 3rd manager.fecking off this abomination of a manager doesn't mean we shouldn't or won't change player material.
The manager controls it partly by his substitutions. Taking off Mainoo and leaving us with no defensive midfield cover was criminalI don’t really understand how the players aren’t catching any flack compared to the manager. People are vastly overstating how much control a manager has in the middle of a game, especially from a winning position. If you’re losing you can go gung-ho etc.
What’s he supposed to tell the players? You listen to any ex-pros and they tell you it’s always about the players once the game has started.
That said, he’s still gotta go.
Yeah, but the guy who starts Rashford every single game and never subs him will surely get rid.He should be sacked, but the problem is that players like Rashford will be given another chance again. So many of these players need binning and they won't with another manager.
Ten Hag plays him in every game and somehow ETH staying means Rashford will leave?He should be sacked, but the problem is that players like Rashford will be given another chance again. So many of these players need binning and they won't with another manager.
And the cycle continues with this club. If Ratcliffe and the new CEO etc are truly serious, they will be ruthless and kick plenty out starting with Rashford.If they sack ETH then a new manager is going to be given a chance to work with these players and make their own mind up.
Van Gaal lost a game 4-0 to MK Dons, in fairness.The performances under him have been the poorest of any manager post SAF.
Moyes and Van Gaal at their worst would have still won comfortably today.
We go life and death with literally any team in the league pyramid because our structure is an absolute joke.
Again, if that happens the club is stupid.If they sack ETH then a new manager is going to be given a chance to work with these players and make their own mind up.
Ratcliffe's people hopefully won't be as forgiving.Players that were a disgrace under Ole and Rangnick are still here under a 3rd manager.
Blaming the manager is the easy and obvious answer.And the cycle continues with this club. If Ratcliffe and the new CEO etc are truly serious, they will be ruthless and kick plenty out starting with Rashford.
If they don't start being ruthless, nothing will change.
Doesn't really have many other options, Antony is a disgrace and Amad is probably not ready. New managers will want to assess again as usual.We can't close a single game out, no matter the opposition. Sorry but structure isn't going to change that, neither will fewer injuries.
Ten Hag plays him in every game and somehow ETH staying means Rashford will leave?
Do we actually believe he’d have been gone tomorrow if we lost? It’s always gonna be at the end of the season. That’s when new things start, everything will be in place in the summer. ETH is going it’s just whether he goes on a high or not with the FA cup. We should take note of what spurs did with sacking Mourinho despite getting them in a final.Luckiest guy in the world. That shit saves him until the end of the season... Ole kind of luck
Well not really, the idea that he has been successful in that regard is just your opinion. All I did was pose the question based on objective events that happened well into his 2nd year in charge that maybe he hasn't managed to get a handle on disciplinary issues yet.The opinion was that his disciplinary measures haven't been successful. The Sancho thing you keep bringing up is a red herring, I'm not suggesting that there will never be disciplinary issues, I'm saying he's handled them very well, and the Sancho thing is a great example. Under previous managers that kind of falling out could (and did) lead to mutiny, whereas under Ten Hag the player has been excised without poisoning the well.
So why persist with something that clearly isn't working when there will be very little if any tangible benefit in doing that?There's no contradiction at all. You've made a distinction where none exists. We're adopting a system that doesn't work yet, as we don't have the personnel to make it work, so it looks like a strange hybrid at the moment. Like I said, we can't stick with the mid block that most of this squad was built for, buy the players for his ideal system, and make the switch overnight. I'm pretty confident that any proactive system we tried to adopt, under any manager, would take time to adopt and would be far from optimal for a while, hence why I'm not up in arms at that being the case now.
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So we take off a 19 year old kid for a danish international and that causes us to concede 3 goals to a championship team? He’s clearly not taking him off for tactical reasons.The manager controls it partly by his substitutions. Taking off Mainoo and leaving us with no defensive midfield cover was criminal
The club has been stupid for 10+ yearsOnly happens if the club is stupid.
This isn’t based on anything, managers get rid of players when they come in all the time. Ten Hag backs Rashford, he isn’t going to be getting rid of him if he stays.Doesn't really have many other options, Antony is a disgrace and Amad is probably not ready. New managers will want to assess again as usual.
Only time will tell.Ratcliffe's people hopefullt won't be as forgiving.
He conceded possession and control to a team with nothing to lose and took off his best attacking outlet, keeping on players who weren’t contributing.He put on Danish and Brazilian international’s against a fecking Championship team, who were two of the most experienced players on our bench.
There wasn’t some kind of massive tactical shift from Coventry. They attacked a bit more. You don’t need a change for that, the players need to take some responsibility. The likes of Keane talk about it all the time, funnily enough proper leaders.