I mean, of course Fergie said that when he did. He is one of the all time great man managers, but it’s incredibly difficult for a man well into his 70’s by that point to get his point across to a 20 year old. The fact is that society is ever changing and man management means keeping on top of that. Fergie was no doubt feeling more and more and more like he was getting out of touch, because he was, and that’s fine.
If there is actually a revamp/overhaul happening - then they will. I don't think ETH will appreciate players being imposed upon him for commercial reasons.
Think they call them flemish fries.
This would happen irrespective of whom we hired! Its Caf after all. If we're ever united in anything, its in our difference of opinion.
Bailly's not been that goodOne Eric came in to save the club, and spark our most successful period in decades.
Now another Erik is about to arrive in our time of need. Coincidence? I think not.
I think every player we have can perform a lot better with quality coaching and a better system.
Steele did help DDG massively but LVG's goalkeeper coach did a better job.Clearly wasn't talking about that EricDjemba Djemba
Since Steele left it's all gone to shit ironically
Things weren't good when Steele was around, De Gea's game and in particular command of the box was heavily criticized. De Gea improved when Steele left in particular with Hoek and things went downhill when Mourinho hired De Gea's former coach, the one he had at Atletico that was later fired by Ole for allegedly conducting himself poorly during preseason.
We haven't won a league title since Steele left. Clearly he was the glue that held the club together.
Exactly, some people just can't be satisfied.
I have to concede that one, that's irrefutable.
Yeah for a good luck like that and so he can fit in better because it sounds more Dutch.
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Thats what you get for hiring non-brexit managers.
Ralf is sounding a bit defensive there.
Again, I'm basing it mostly on our players and the wave of managers they've seen off. The arrogance of our squad dismissively saying they had to Google Ralf is the kinda thing I'm talking about.
Ralf is sounding like Ralf sounds. Like a battle-hardened realist, he can’t stand romanticism and sensationalism by the looks of it.
In what sense? If anything, he is hitting out at the bad squad and the odd employees we have as there were new reports that he doesn't understand Fletchers position. Earlier on in the season he also said he doesn't understand phelans position.
Our team and players haven't seen a particularly large amount of managers and these managers weren't exactly good ones either. Also it's not a good idea to base your take on a rumour of an unnamed player googling something.
Expected but nonetheless interesting. Notice he says he did advice the club (Murtough/Arnold) that Ten Hag would be a good - not coach, but - choice. There are many good coaches, but ‘good choice’ signals that he was in favor of picking Ten Hag over Poch and the other candidates. So from Rangnik, that is high praise indeed, most likely.
I never dismissed Fergie as old, I said as the age gap between him and the players grew keeping up with what was necessary to relate and get through gets more and more difficult. It’s just a fact.
Im just so glad we didnt end up with Poch, I have never rated him.
Of course. The reality is that this is a board compromised almost entirely on unsubstantiated opinions. But we are in an unholy mess, and I think, controversially it seems, that our players' attitudes might be questionable.
N or O?
No, you dismissed his take because of age. I think his position and experience carry more weight than your facts Rafa.
I’d just like to point out that I do think there are issues within the group, my point is purely that these issues aren’t because of age
No, I said that he’ll have been finding it more difficult than ever. Fergie of 20 years prior to that would probably have disagreed entirely with his own words from later, but this is getting very far from the initial point that age is irrelevant to the issues.
The irony; your measure of age seems based on personal views etc, then transferred as an homogeneity of human experience. Yet, you're on this forum where human experiences, views and knowledge is diverse.Mmmmkay...
Neither, as you were. Cheerio.
Why would our players be that different to players from other clubs? Do you consider that clubs that are doing worse, are in their predicament due to players having questionable attitudes? Why the attitude of our players became questionable at United and not before?
I think you've missed the next part of the quote: "We are here today to witness the union of a promising coach and a prestigious club in the joyful bond of the holy wedlock. Unfortunately, one of them, Erik ten Hag, has just fallen to his death."
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Why would our players be different from other clubs? Really? You don't think different clubs have different cultures? You don't think someone like Van Gaal who has been here has an idea about the culture of this club? You don't think the commercial aspect of this club has had a negative effect on the culture at Old Trafford. I do. I have watched us indulge utter charlatans in this squad. I think that has an effect. You don't think that there is any truth in Keane's assessment of our club?
