Yeah, he seems to have flattered to deceive in terms of the coaching side (recruitment has been by and large awful, but people seem to agree more on that), much more than I expected. Nevertheless, I think taking over that Tottenham squad at the time, with lower expectations but also a more football-driven exec, and with buying taken out of his hands and with more humble, hard-working players in general (and a proper leader with standards in Kane), he would have done better than either of those two.
Yeah, if they come through this (I pray they do) it must be the absolute bottom of the trough. It could barely be worse than losing 3-0 at home to the Newcastle fringe.
As if any other midfield combination would have looked definitely better. Sofa score average position map has us pretty compact in the center, not like Newcastle sliced us open on numerous occasions. Their goals came from a counter after individual mistakes and wonderstrike. Of course it is still a shitty result and we definitely looked helpless but I don't see what he could have done differently. Would you have wanted him to add more steel to midfield? McTom, Casemiro and Amrabat? Still wouldn't have been enough to outbattle Newcastle tonight. And they were two up, had he done that, he would have been criticized just as well.
Yeah sounds "likely"... Thats what the really evil people do, "you must not shout". Definitely a Glazer thing
I think if all his signings were properly fit and playing near their best level, they’d be in the team ahead of others in the squad. I don’t think his signings are bad, they are the right profile for modern football. It’s the old players that are the main problem. (Well everything is a problem at the moment.)
Your replies are all weird non-applicable attempts at one-upping. So odd. From going on about Ragnick as a coach - when that wasn't the context - to now this. I mean, we did spend £400m under Ten Hag, no? Also, Alvarez was playing in Argentina then and these were pre world cup Enzo and Gvardiol. The fees they would have commanded likely wouldn't have been the same.
Why would you shout at people for them playing badly in a tactical system you told them to play in?
He's been tossing out the same words for weeks. He's yet to get a reaction from the players.
Thinking Ten Hag is not the guy is totally irrelevant to the fact that Rangnick was an utter waste of space. It's fecking dreamland to think it would all be different. A wet lettuce of a man.
Think back and look how hopeless those players looked at Newcastle when all then ownership toxicity was spreading throughout the club. Rafa, Steve Bruce etc etc.. it didn't matter who came in the whole club was toxic from top to bottom. They looked so much worse than Utd in every area. As soon as that was resolved and they won the lottery, Howe comes in and all of sudden there's a extra spring in everyones step, "because oh shit, if we dont step up, the club can replace us now." It lifted the whole place up several notches and gave the players a reason to up their game.
You think the players are choosing to play this way to ‘win’? Is that what you would do? Who needs glory and acclaim when you can just be shit instead? This manager wants us to win things but we’re no mugs, we’re going to get him sacked instead because feck everyone, that’s why.
They think this is the easy way out because they believe the club will just sack another manager yes. History has told us that is exactly what will happen and many of them get a reprieve on their big contracts.
Fringe team of a team playing well hockeys the fringe team of a team playing terribly for months, nothing incredibly surprising there. Certainly not a nadir.
The football is dire. I mean, what else is there? If the football is dire that’s the start and end of it.
So you don’t believe these players play for Manchester United because they want to win trophies and play for a massive club where the expectation is to win every game? Instead they would rather get a good manager sacked instead of work hard for those things? Have you heard this nonsense?
I put it as the worst defeat of the year, easily.
That's cool and all and how you feel - I hear that. However, the reported list of players Ragnick recommended included some really good players, hence talent ID - and mentioned in the context of his proposed consultancy role and the £400m's we've spent for the current manager.
What kind of dream world do you fecking live in
Well that's just ridiculous.
Worst defeat of the year.....so far
If the Glazers were dumb enough to give him carte blanche then that's on them. He had not shown at any prior club that he was capable of handling everything like that.
One of the few players that we had that would give his all every game. Man of match in some of our best performances last season. Yes, it was a mistake to sell him, add it to the list.
What kind of dream world do you fecking live in
You’re the one saying we can’t sack the manager because the players ‘win’!He wasn't cut out for the mangers job. But if if he stayed and moved upstairs we would have established the role of DOF. A crap DOF is better than no DOF. At least it would be a start in moving into the 21st century.
