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The problem is that any player less than £50m is used as a weapon to attack the club with by the fanbase. Glazers being cheap, not good enough etc.
Man management and other nore rudimentary things may be the basics but in the end the playing style/system/philosophy/whatever you want to call it makes the difference. There's been no continously successful team in the last decade without one, especially in terms of league performances. And on top of that, you could even say that almost all currently succesful teams play substyles of one particular playing style. It should be worrying for you that Ten Hag feels the need to move away from it at United since he deems it not fitting for the club but I'd say he isn't blameless in that as he should be more idealistic and was brought in as an agent of agent.
I'm not 100% sure but wasn't it the case even last season that the defensive line was deep? Proved by stats etc.
Most players are all this and worse, but OUR players are backstabbing and have the ear of the Glazers.
Rangnick was supposed to the taskmaster type too, wouldn't take bullshit etc. They made short work of him.
So if you love him because he did a brilliant job last season - shouldn’t you be critical of the poor job this season? Instead of just hand-waving and dismissing the valid stuff people are saying about him/the team now?
100% this.
Not really, I guess it happens at times at other clubs but only for short periods. He openly said last year when we had a packed schedule that training was the homework and the game was the test, as in they had too many injuries and too many games to train properly, so training consisted of mostly conditioning and watching videos/doing analysis/discussing game plan, and then it was on the players to implement what they had talked about during the game. There was no drills done in training or anything like that to learn or practice how to do the stuff they were talking about. So of course you've got players like McTomminay who just can't unless they're shown.
They are not, its not that complex. The whole culture of the club is toxic and some more need to be shipped out for sure. But we have a squad full of international players, it really should be possible to get them to perform better. Can anyone tell me what ETH is trying to do? Why he signed such a limited player as Antony and then plays him every week, then you wonder why other players are losing faith in him. The guy is lower premier league at best.
They're right you mean.
It's so weird, people talk about our managers like they're a pet or their baby. So sweet, cute and can't do anything wrong. Just ignoring the fact he's shat himself for the 6th time today.
Next year then I guess
The squad kept changing over the past decade with the same results. Including a lot of players ETH knew and wanted. I don't buy the idea that it is untouchable or toxic. Because it has been touched and changed. A lot. But yesterday's new great player with the right attitude is today's toxic disaster.
The year will be 2040, all of our current players will have been retired and our fans will still be frothing at their mouths how "these toxic players" cost Moyes and all the subsequent managers thier jobs
Yep, we've been here before as well mate, it's just a matter of time from this point. The criticisms come quicker and every time the manager speaks he says something else that people can hold over him. It would probably be within his best interests to get hammered in the next two games and get sacked now than drag this out until Christmas.
Let's hope so. I still think that we will have a game where everything goes 'right'... Rashford destroys a team and scores a couple of crackers, Rasmus has a stormer and notches, Mount shows his quality and smashes one in. I do, genuinely do think this will happen... at some point. Better happen soon though.
Most of the dickheads are gone? What if they genuinely have fair complaints about his management style? Have you considered that possibility?
There around 9 or more players still floating about from the previous two managers.
Doesn't mean they're dickheads though does it? We had some proper whoppers in the form of Pogba, Lingard, Henderson, Bailly etc. They've all gone and the squad looks more harmonious. I'm not saying there's not a couple left but the manager made sure that anyone that was full of shit was shown the door right away.
Who is using the dickhead word?
This is as it should be.
Agreed, and more. The players are the key to being the fans' heroes. But your heroes are never your friends, or care about you significantly. But when they are not even trying, when they are being toxic, then it is debatable whether they should remain the ones you look up to.
Probably not an issue with selling him, more in his handling of him.
Unless we win our next few games it'll be an interim until the ownership is resolved. If the players don't believe in his methods or he isn't able to explain what he wants from them then when results fo south things turn toxic. You can't just ignore a team that has no leadership.
I didn't realise that Maguire was not an adult capable of handling himself just fine. But yeah Maguire got his wish in not moving to West Ham, while Ten Hag got a player ready to put his life on the line for his club. Win-win.
In the thick of it at the end of seasons just staying fit and very light work is the norm, but my saying it would be unprecedented is if they’ve not done technical work since April. These players aren’t technical marvels in the first place and need as much work in that department as possible. Pep’s sides are already ridiculous technically, but you can’t imagine him ever forgoing technical work until the aforementioned run-in.
Yeah reports yesterday were that it will take till next year to finalise - which is a terrifying thought if we will simply do nothing until then. Surely, if they are that confident a deal will happen, they can have some conversations about how to proceed for now.
The weird thing about this is that actually technical sessions should be lighter work than fitness sessions etc. Throwing a bunch of balls on the ground and enjoying some trickery should actually be better than most other sessions in the run in.
What are you on about?
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