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Whoops... I didn't realize your post was in response to one about Arteta, not EtH. So of course my post makes no sense
Whoops... I didn't realize your post was in response to one about Arteta, not EtH. So of course my post makes no sense
£410m
Leaking roof and we need Qatari and DoF to start winning away from Home.They must have started taking the coaching sessions this year to earn that dividend.
Ah the leaking roof is the cause of all our ills, makes sense.Leaking roof and we need Qatari and DoF to start winning away from Home.
Oh... well, we need two world class players in every position etc etcWe already have
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ball-news/man-united-ten-hag-rainier-25823403
Rainier Koers has been brought in by Manchester United to instill a positive spirit within the squad.
I agree that he's likely done, and for pretty good reason. Not sure those include his having the Dutch version of a West Country rural twang and tics, but that's by the by...I'm seeing @pocco 's side on this and it's not so much his ability to speak English, it's the style, manner and inflections that come from that particular region of Netherlands. There was someone on here who was either Dutch or knew a lot about it and said a while ago he got some stick about it back there. Something like how we diss Ligue Un as a 'farmer's league', it was similar to that; country gent coming into big city type thing. But either way, I think he's just about done for, unfortunately as I can't see it continuing like this waiting for INEOS to get to grips with it.
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No wonder we can’t string 3 passes together. Don’t know how anyone can do their job under these conditions.Leaking roof and we need Qatari and DoF to start winning away from Home.
I still can’t get over the fact a Danish team put 4 past us due to how open we were.It's true, they were effing terrible.
They only scored 4 because our Erik does not seemingly know how to structure a team defence where the same basic rules apply, no matter who is playing.
All it takes is one injury or sending off and it all goes to shit at the back.
Don’t forget that we need to clear out the current lot first so we need about 22 brand new world class players first.Oh... well, we need two world class players in every position etc etc
Was wonderingWhoops... I didn't realize your post was in response to one about Arteta, not EtH. So of course my post makes no sense
And you’re going off subject. I think the original argument/disagreement was that Solskjær did a better job than Arteta… that’s why I brought the trophy up.By that logic Di Matteo is amazing
And if we beat them both, we will have more points than after the same amount of games last season ! CrossroadsHe'll be gone in two weeks if we don't beat Luton and Everton.
I agree. If there is no stratagy from the club, then it will be rinse repeat.The problem we've got is short termism. If we keep changing managers after 1-2 season then we will never rebuild. The commentators said it took Fergie 100games to win 50. Ten Haag is ahead of that. Short termism has got us Casemiro and Varnae and Erikson - we bought them in, won a trophy and now its time to move on from them. Anthony is 21 Hojlund is 20 - those guys could be here 10 years - they are not a waste of money......yet. He needs another season at least before we can judge him. Changing him now just gets us a new manager with a load of players he doesnt fancy and we go round again. ETH has got a good track record - give him a chance.
True, but strength of opponent was much weaker in our first 13 games this season.And if we beat them both, we will have more points than after the same amount of games last season ! Crossroads
I would love to know what is going to turn this ship around?This thread epitomises kicking the can down the road.
Stop using every excuse under the sun to validate the nonsense that he “will come good”.
All of them with Eredivisie experience, of course.Don’t forget that we need to clear out the current lot first so we need about 22 brand new world class players first.
Nah. All of our wins have been terrible performances where we’ve been really lucky to win.There's a whole bunch of context you have to put in there though. The pens amd red cards alone are a big contributing factor.
I argued last season that people were getting carried away with ETH. Far too giddy. Seeing things(patterns of play) that weren't there.
But now its flipped the other way. He's had such bad luck this season. It'd be incredibly harsh to sack any manager whose been dealt this hand.
Overmars?I for one am eager to see who he next brings in from the eredivisie to fix this mess…….
Good culture fitOvermars?
Yeah just like De Boer went and won the CL after Palace fired him.Ten Hag will be successful wherever he goes after United.
Just let him go and let's get De Zebri, can't wait to read hundres of pages calling him "fraud" in 1 year.
He's picked the players we spent a lot on (antony) or players that were not as important (mount - areas that didn't need filling). Mount is now benched and we have a very average defence as I would say Martinez seems to be the only one who I would class as really good and somewhat consistent. Nothing about buying another 11 - EtH just didn't plan well enough in terms of the areas that needed upgrading and he didn't picked the right players to buy.Sorry for being a simple newbie , I should know my place better. Ok here's a back up . We had areas to cover and after that we had no money. Your suggestion seem to point that we should have bought replacement for AWB and Shaw as they are not good enough. Well i would point out that if that the level we need to buy another 11 to cover for injuries and poor performance as all our areas at present in bang average to poor.
Not disputing that. Point is there's valid reasons for the losses and poor wins beyond the manager being rubbish.Nah. All of our wins have been terrible performances where we’ve been really lucky to win.
Or Mourinho, Van Gaal, Ole and Moyes. It's weird that fans always have this notion that we are somehow lucky to have a player or manager who isn't performing. We are Man United. We shouldn't care if Ten Haag goes back to Ajax and wins a billion league titles. It's the same way Pogba, Alexis Sanchez, VDB and all our other failed managers and signings would have made it elsewhere. Despite this notion, in the 10 years of failure after Sir Alex, only Di Maria and Memphis Depay have gone on to do better things after leaving United.Yeah just like De Boer went and won the CL after Palace fired him.
The people urgently wanting him sacked forget that we have gone over a decade without a league title or CL regardless of who's been at the helm. Two managers that are serial winners failing miserably. So maybe, just maybe we should build a functioning structure in which ETH can succeed before binning another manager.The way people fight to defend this guy - you’d think he won us the league and/or the CL or at the very least had us playing swashbuckling champagne football.
From what I recall the Ten Hag signing was seen as United finally making a "modern" managerial signing, which lots of people really wanted. I can understand holding onto him because if this fails, there is no obvious solution.The way people fight to defend this guy - you’d think he won us the league and/or the CL or at the very least had us playing swashbuckling champagne football.
Do you not constantly defend shite players that have had way more time to show something than Ten Hag has?The way people fight to defend this guy - you’d think he won us the league and/or the CL or at the very least had us playing swashbuckling champagne football.
Its shocking that people are still defending ETH when he has had 18 months and has produced nothing, there is no game plan or style and his subs are bizarre.Do you not constantly defend shite players that have had way more time to show something than Ten Hag has?
Was absolutely dumb beyond belief that Murtough & Arnold give him full control over transfersBarring Hojlund he has the worst eye for talent I’ve ever seen, just awful.
Martinez?Barring Hojlund he has the worst eye for talent I’ve ever seen, just awful.
Yeah coping in adversity is non existentTeam has a composure problem, the swiftness of how we seem to capitulate after one bad event is concerning
Do you not constantly defend shite players that have had way more time to show something than Ten Hag has?