He’s too stubborn to admit he’s made an error. That style is never going to come good in the PL, not too stubborn to change
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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Yeah pretty much. Both are uninspiring especially Southgate.
Il take Nagelsmann though.
Yeah exactly my point. Win that game and it’s not really because we were good or that he set us up well. All our games are 50/50 at best, we’ve had maybe 4 league games where we genuinely deserved to win, even when facing poor teams we still largely leave it up to luck. We have way more points than we should but it is slowly regressing back to the mean anyway.
i'm done... he said on tnt '''the quality of our football is really high''
He wants to sidestep any jibes that might come his way now he’s finally ready to accept the manager is massively out of his depth. It’s been obvious since last season and he’s been in here every day fighting his corner, now he doesn’t want to talk about it all of a sudden.
Can we stop with the I told you so stuff. Everyone is annoyed about United being so bad so no point rubbing it in just because someone thought that ETH would turn it around
You’re happy with this?
Hojlund and Casemiro deserved to be subbed off, especially Casemiro. Both didn't have a good game.
No, but some do oddly enough, making the same laughable mistake as they did under the previous managers. Some of these key players who have survived previous regimes have to be questioned and mostly all should be gone.
It was a reasonable assumption that players returning would make a difference. Unfortunately for whatever reason ETH serves up the same shit show whoever he has available, I’m genuinely baffled how he keeps repeating the same mistakes and I have no idea what he actually does that is of any use.
If anything the big injury list was just a distraction from the complete disaster he has been all season and a convenient excuse.
Surely he knows how crap we are??
I want to side step jibes that come my way? I've quoted a few head on mate. I just won't get pulled into circular debates when I'm exhausted from a defeat. Be an adult about it and move on.
He has...
no charisma.
talks shit in interviews and press conferences.
no idea tactically, certainly nothing we see translated onto the field
signings have been largely terrible.
fallen out with multiple players
players don't seem to believe in him
his team cant keep fit
has lead us to some of the most embarrassing defeats of our history
No reason to keep this guy in the job any more.
no charisma.
talks shit in interviews and press conferences.
no idea tactically, certainly nothing we see translated onto the field
signings have been largely terrible.
fallen out with multiple players
players don't seem to believe in him
his team cant keep fit
has lead us to some of the most embarrassing defeats of our history
No reason to keep this guy in the job any more.
No excitement that’s for sure. It’s beyond that. I’m worried about us against bigger teams. Can you imagine our game against Liverpool? They would want to prove a point after their defeat in the FA Cup. It’s going to be ugly. Szoboszlai and Mac Allister in midfield running freely in front of our defenders. Will be embarrassing
We’ve been involved in more 4-3’s this season than the last 10 years put together*.
We’re chaos merchants, and it simply isn’t sustainable. The manager has to take a chunk of the blame for that.
With that said, he’s been handed a brand new shit sandwich every week. The stuff he’s had to deal with is unprecedented. Surely it can’t be this bad next season, if we let him see out his last year…?
*could be bullshit, but it sounds like it could be true
We’re chaos merchants, and it simply isn’t sustainable. The manager has to take a chunk of the blame for that.
With that said, he’s been handed a brand new shit sandwich every week. The stuff he’s had to deal with is unprecedented. Surely it can’t be this bad next season, if we let him see out his last year…?
*could be bullshit, but it sounds like it could be true
What di you want Hojlund to do?
Just forget the season already, its done.
Less than 2 months to go, erase the memory.
If he thinks the quality of the football was high then the man is fully delusional. Would also explain why he’s not changing his suicidal tactics. He needs to go ASAP.
In what way are injuries, ownership changes and player fall outs unprecedented?
You really shouldn't have to be coached to see a game out at that level. Player intelligence is the problem there, not coaching. Too many players will poor intelligence, technique and compoure.
You can coach a lot, but you can't coach brains.
This guy is a massive troll. Thinks we dominated game despite conceding 25+ shots on goal.
It was a penalty only in the sense that it was given, but it shouldn't have been. The 'contact' that apparently knocked him over, if it happened at all, happened because Dalot was falling himself. The 'tap' on his boot, again if it happened at all, did not have any effect on his balance or his ability to play the ball.
The first penalty was even less of a penalty, how there wasn't a full review of that is absurd. There is no point in VAR if it's going to let nonsense decisions like that go.
Could anyone please explain to me why Ten Hag substituted Casemiro out for useless-in-middle-McTominay when defense was needed, while keeping the number of attackers? Why not increase the number of midfielders and defenders to maintain the scoreline?
Yeah it's like a broken record at this stage. The players are partly at fault but a manager can't be excused from any blame fro this clusterfeck of a season.
That it was obvious from last season that ETH was failing to address problems. We kept hearing about the carabao cup win as some sort of proof that he knows what he's doing. We even had the rather bizarre 20 minute spell against Tottenham being lauded as more proof that he's the man to lead the club.
The club has barely deserved to win any games that they have won, so many wins have been a struggle with a nonexistent midfield and individuals bailing him out.
It seemed so glaringly obvious that he's been out of his depth for some time.
I was all for keeping him for another season and he may well do.. but something smells wrong and I think he's a gonner, internal rumblings about Ineos wanting there own man etc etc..
His football in last 3 games has been so open it's unbelievable, it's like he's gone I've picked 11 now just go and play..? Rashford has gone mentally not there.. maybe it's better for everyone he goes.. maybe ETH is thinking the same he's gone..
His football in last 3 games has been so open it's unbelievable, it's like he's gone I've picked 11 now just go and play..? Rashford has gone mentally not there.. maybe it's better for everyone he goes.. maybe ETH is thinking the same he's gone..
He’s gone from looking fresh last season to having noticeable bags under his eyes. This club destroys managers. When Ten Hag leaves and goes on to win more trophies elsewhere, we’ll be sat wanting him as our next manager when whoever next fails!
The manager market is absolutely dire this year, if the options are potter or Southgate - I’m sticking every day of the week with Ten Hag!
The manager market is absolutely dire this year, if the options are potter or Southgate - I’m sticking every day of the week with Ten Hag!
No, but happier than pressing the reset button again with either Potter or Southgate.
Tonight wasn't the first time this season the players on the field needed to roll up their sleeves deliver leadership and character to close it out and win the game.
I don't expect things to turn around without a clear out and that will require a few transfer windows so no quick fix.
I mean he has to go right ?
He is there repeating the same mistakes again and again
He is there repeating the same mistakes again and again
it’s a shame we’ve been doing this for 10 years now. Forget the season before it’s over and hope we fast forward to better days
Where are all the enlightened posters suggesting that the high shots conceded was actually a tactic and it's fine doing so?
I feel similar. I don't even care anymore. I was a big fan of his talk about people earning their place, and you only get chances if you deserve them, but we've seen that doesn't really apply. I'd be happy for him to upset a few more of the babies in the team to encourage them to leave in the summer, but he should be joining them.
You've not been paying attention to how annoying some of the ETH in people have been.
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I thought Palmer was pretty well closed down at most points, apart from the the goal. We do concede a lot of deflected goals, which is definitely due to manically trying to block shots like you say.
I’m in agreement that generally throughout the game, ten hag is getting a lot wrong. The pressing isn’t working well enough to play how we’re trying, and we lose the ball too often for it too.
I’m not having it at all that the players are fatigued due to tactics and so they are conceding late goals. These lads will concede straight after scoring, early in halves, late in halves, whenever you think “you cannot concede now”, they concede. It’s mental.
Harsh on @horsechoker
Fair. Nothing wrong with supporting the manager.
But the amount of time you have defended him, jeez. You could have probably studied for and obtained a Master's Degree!
Maybe you will get an honorary one at the University of Twente, NL!
"It was for the neutral an amazing game. A fantastic football game with a lot of quality."
Quality? You're not in the Dutch league anymore
"Manchester United dominated the game but we made individual errors that cost us the game."
Dominated? Less possession, less shots, less corners. Less touches. Less passes. Less chances. Plonker
"We have to learn from it. When you are a Man Utd player you should already know how to deal with this circumstance."
That's why you coach players, so they know what to do in every situation. Obviously they don't know how to deal with it because it keeps happening.
"I enjoyed how my team were playing, it was fantastic. We dominated the ball, we dominated the opponent."
As delusional as a fecking flat earther
"In five days we dropped five points. That is unacceptable. We should have a high standard if we want to compete for Champions League football."
We should have higher standards? Finally something we agree on. That's why we must sack you ASAP
Quality? You're not in the Dutch league anymore
"Manchester United dominated the game but we made individual errors that cost us the game."
Dominated? Less possession, less shots, less corners. Less touches. Less passes. Less chances. Plonker
"We have to learn from it. When you are a Man Utd player you should already know how to deal with this circumstance."
That's why you coach players, so they know what to do in every situation. Obviously they don't know how to deal with it because it keeps happening.
"I enjoyed how my team were playing, it was fantastic. We dominated the ball, we dominated the opponent."
As delusional as a fecking flat earther
"In five days we dropped five points. That is unacceptable. We should have a high standard if we want to compete for Champions League football."
We should have higher standards? Finally something we agree on. That's why we must sack you ASAP
Hardly knee jerk when we’ve been shit for over a year