Nor should it.
Probably not any worse
More like it, a mate of mine said to me months ago. ''If Ten Hag continues this obsession of trying to shoehorn McTominay into every match it'll get him sacked.'' Looking like that'll come true.
I also fail to understand where the threshold is. It's very uncommon for teams to totally change their squad before a manager improve them, yet it seems to be what some wants. I do agree on the idea of selling a number of players and bringing better ones or simply for the purpose of "freshening" the team but it's not realistic or sensible to always bring up the lack of complete squad turnover.
I don’t disagree that McTominay is dire but Casemiro was horrendous, he was playing like a 60 year old man.
That was a wild 5 mins where we where the fans were ole-ing and we were keeping possession well. Then decided that was too boring and started booting the ball to them.
He's just looking at goals conceded and seeing us as the 4th best record in the league but completely disregarding the fact that it's largely because:
I honestly don't care that deeply about this game as in case we win, we are going to once again face City at Wembley, and looking at how we've fared this season against them it's not going to be a pleasant watch.
They did care. We played our best game of season, especially first half, but were also ultimately quite lucky that they did not capitalize more in the opening minutes of second half where they could have realistically ended the game.
I think many people have downplayed how ridiculously horrible that campaign was. We finished below Galatasaray and Copenhagen, two of the worst teams we could have come up against, and couldn’t even secure a point against half bothered, already qualified Bayern side (who have struggled massively themselves this season) at home in our last group stage game. We did not even create a single goal scoring opportunity in that must win game yet everyone just accepted it as fine.
Exactly. Then keeps on trust the process spiel.
Captain Moan-a-lot, the ghost of former Casemiro and Ex-captain Harry after not getting sold last summer. Thats certainly a very progressive step. Personally, I too have lost faith in ETH at this point. I think, he put his plans onto the wrong people, he overestimated the squad and he is really fecked by injuries and off-the-pitch stuff. Doesn't look like he believes in him being able to rectify that anymore but man, I'd gut that squad so hard... There wouldn't even one third of the players remain. It is a bit heartbreaking, I think, it was the right thing for ETH to make step up, trying to update our OS but man, it failed miserably also due to players simply not being suited for certain roles and overall application and effort are lacking.
I think the player are not used to keeping the ball.
I posted this April 27th last year. Almost a year ago and it feels like it could have been posted yesterday
Exactly, not even Woodward let something as random as a domestic cup competition decide a manager's future.
Indeed, we need to improve on the players we have in a number of positions and certainly we need more depth. But I just find the constant calls (ging back years now) ''we'll never get anywhere/win the league/be a top side again etc until we get rid of 99% of these lazy cnuts'' a bit pointless, knee jerk and petty. We have a shit season and suddenly the players are the major problem (yet when we have a decent season they're alright), or there's some sort of infectious negative culture that every new signing is immediately stricken with. And we simply must jettison most of the current players to rid ourselves of it.
Woodward set the bar for failure pretty low if we're being honest. He let managers continue if they got top 4, when in all honesty the threshold for success/failure at United should or at least used to be the title. At first I thought that was an ackowledgement that the rebuild after Fergie was a big task and allowances were being made, but it turns out top 4 was all the Glazers cared about. Now we have some suggesting we keep on a manager who's likely to finish 7th/8th and has precided over our worst season in decades. And that's saying something given we recently lived through the Moyes and Ole/Ralf seasons. Which to me is completely unacceptable and nothing more than an erosion of standards and expectations. Ten Hag was hired to win us the league, if he can't even qualify for the CL in a season where 5th could be enough then he's clearly not the man to take us there and has to go.
My posts were in response to a line regarding players that have supposedly failed multiple managers/season after season. As evidenced - the team is considerably different to the one even Ole had - let alone multiple previous managers. It is a line often dropped in an attempt to alleviate how catastrophic this season has been.
Define success Ten Hag has been a disaster and would rightfully leave but you are deluding yourself if you believe most of this squad would amount to anything more than top 4 finish , chances are very few would play any important part in next Successful United's side if we get back to competing for major honours .
This still stands. Don't think he's remotely good enough for this level, or at least the level Manchester United aspire to.
This squad literally finished 3rd and got to two cup finals last year, which proves in the right shape, with the right tactics and manager, they're capable of doing something resembling success. Sure, they won't win a PL or CL but they're not as shit as everyone like to make them out to be, and at the moment Ten Hag has them playing like they're lucky to be in the league.
Ok what percentage of these players aren't good enough to at the very least be capable squad players within a successful side?
They are top 4 side nothing more nothing less and that has been the case since Sir Alex retired , we just haven't got the recruitment right whether it's the players or the manager .
Re his subs, where's the riding the Diallo wave after what he just did against the scousers? Why not give him massive confidence boost and put your trust in him again? Instead, he brings on Rashford who does what he always does - very little.
Didn't say it was anything to do with the manager though did I? If you don't understand the point then that's okHere’s some solid in depth analysis. Everything that goes wrong is the manager and everything that goes right is luck
I think it's probably the drilling in of trying to transition quick. I don't think a lot of them are intelligent or mature footballers to read the game for what it required at that point. There were so many low percentage passes that weren't necessary at that point. Mainoo's that went straight out of play and Rashfords attempt to float the ball over the top for Bruno were such bad choices for the time of the game.
I agree, but he should know that. He should have other solutions up his sleeve to navigate the season, knowing his players aren't capable of that style.
Our whole backline barring couple of them isn't fit for purpose for various reasons , Similar thing could be said about our midfield options and despite our lack of goals I am most confident in our frontline that they could play some role in successful United's side .
