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If anybody can translate Dutch (Apple can’t), I would love to know what they are saying on Ajaxtalk.nl forum.
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It probably makes sense from a big picture and long term perspective. And will save money that way too.The Athletic piece basically reads as “Ten Hag is safe for now because Berrada and Ashworth aren’t there yet”
I also didn’t get the part about INEOS feeling that the appointments above Ten Hag are enough for one summer.
A) surely it’s better to do 100% of the job than 90% of it
B) won’t the new people coming want their own manager to work with. Why bother keeping him just to sack him in a year anyway
I refuse to think ETH is telling McTominay to be braindead or Dalot to let his man get past him. Our players have no game management in them, you can't really coach that.Give over, I can't think of a game this season where we have been in control of the ball. Even winning with 4 minutes left, you have McTominay bombing forward. Just sit in, hold a shape, keep the ball for 4 minutes. We can't even do that. Chelsea turn the ball over and have the whole pitch to run into. Ten Hag ball is chaos. It is not sustainable.
Virtually, any team in the PL can keep the ball for 4 minutes. We can't. We can't string 4 passes together. This is on the manager.
This sort of sensationalist spin is absurdIt’s the same manager and the same players, but the club is so broken and infected with the owners’ poison that anything positive will eventually be snuffed out. Our club is only Manchester United by name, and it’s heartbreaking
He did criticise Rashford and Bruno within that rant regarding ETH's with them.Can't argue with that! but again we are putting all the blame on the manager and letting the players, board and owners off completely free.
Get a new manager in and give all the players a clean slate! that's sounds familiar
We know who our targets are going to be though, ten Hag will have that figured out.If you can't replace a manager because the structure isn't in place, does that also apply to transfers? Even more costly, usually sticking around for a longer time etc.
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They still think it’s not the manager/coaching too. As if fecking Sheffield has a better squdThese stats are genuinely utter madness.
This is the big elephant in the room here. I’m on-the-fence with ETH - I think there are huge mitigations for this season and he hasn’t become shit overnight - but then performances like Brentford are unacceptable even with those mitigations. Ultimately if he is sacked I don’t think anyone can complain and I’ll move on quite quickly. However, ETH staying or going is irrelevant to the bigger issue which is recruitment. Who is currently deciding our targets for this off-season, who decides who is leaving and who is ensuring those things happen? Because to my untrained eye we’re in April and nobody besides a cyclist at the club seems to be in charge of making decisions.If you can't replace a manager because the structure isn't in place, does that also apply to transfers? Even more costly, usually sticking around for a longer time etc.
Yes I like the guy but still desperate for him to be sacked,well done that caller on Talksport for saying most things that everyone else is thinkingThe weird thing is about ETH, is in comparison to pretty much every previous manager aside from maybe LVG, I actually really like the guy and am not desperate for him to be sacked. Do I think his tactics and are causing massive problems? Most certainly. Do I also think he's being forced to deal with absolutely shite professionals and footballers also and on top of that an unprecedented injury crisis, disrupting what consistency he's trying to achieve? Most certainly. The truth about rather he's the right man for the job perhaps lies somewhere in the middle the more I'm thinking about the past few years and how truly dismally the club has been run.
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Because if we are setting up a structure to make these massive calls, you want everyone to be aligned. Being aligned doesn't mean making expensive gambles without the people who have been hired to make the calls being able to actually make them. That's just going the Glazers route of throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks, not knowing if they have the same vision as Ashworth and Wilcox, etc.I don't see why going into that season with ETH rather than any other coach is a good idea though. We could give McKenna or another young coach a shot at it, if our intention is to get rid of ETH (rightly so) then we may as well give something else a try even if it has 1 in 10 shot at succeeding.
Rashford has got Erik wrapped around his little finger,before people come at me with him benched last night,just remember he was the first attacking player he brought on.Every player in the squad will tell you in interviews and social media posts they want to win trophies and play in the CL. But I wonder how many of them actually believe they are good enough to do it as they rarely show it on the pitch.
I hope EtH is just desperately trying to avoid the next Ronaldo/Sancho saga with Rashford.
The big games suit us in general as it allows us to shell up and play on the counter. The only caveat is that we don't go too far behind our we get decimated. But against weaker teams, who adopt those tactics themselves and ask us the question of what we've got, is where it becomes clear we don't have much of a plan.If you’ve got players in a team that’s able to beat a few of the best teams in the league, which we have! Having got close to arsenal and Liverpool in one off matches then it comes down to consistency and dominance in beating the lower teams. That’s where we struggle, we need a manger who can control games and get the players playing out of their skin consistently. The players we have are a lot better than what is being made out
The process we should follow is - we hired Ashworth and Wilcox to be our director of football and technical director. They are going to be leading all football changes including coaching staff, player recruitment, manager recruitment. And the goal is to have everyone aligned. They are literally the main people in the search for a new manager. They don't start this summer, they start next year.Why is that right? What “process” are we following? You admit the manager is never going to work but the process is to give him more time to prove you correct?
Yeah keep those targets for his next clubWe know who our targets are going to be though, ten Hag will have that figured out.
The grey area is that we can easily be talking to these guys on the phone, and probably have been for months now. If they ask us to get a certain manager in place then, is that an issue?Because if we are setting up a structure to make these massive calls, you want everyone to be aligned. Being aligned doesn't mean making expensive gambles without the people who have been hired to make the calls being able to actually make them. That's just going the Glazers route of throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks, not knowing if they have the same vision as Ashworth and Wilcox, etc.
When you're setting up a structure like we need to do, you set it up from the top down and make sure everyone is aligned to go in the same direction. If that means waiting it out a year and doing "safer" moves ... So be it.
Yeah I never saw last night as Rashford being dropped...rested for Liverpool more like.Rashford has got Erik wrapped around his little finger,before people come at me with him benched last night,just remember he was the first attacking player he brought on.
It sends out the message that we are going to be patient and make the right moves rather than be pressured into panic decisions while we again try to sprint for instant success rather than following the smart process and understanding what the best route is.What a great message to send out that'd be. Zero accountability for failure
Rashford, Bruno and Garnacho are key to his tactics. We'd look worse without Bruno, yet everyone wants him dropped and doesn't realise this. He's the brains of the team, not Ten Hag. It's literally 'give the ball to Bruno. Bruno, you create to the best of your abilities, don't worry if you lose the ball'.Rashford has got Erik wrapped around his little finger,before people come at me with him benched last night,just remember he was the first attacking player he brought on.
Yeah pisses me off so much our hands are tied for getting these big earners and wasters in Rashford's case off the books this summerWon't be easy due to FFP.
We have seen how hard it has been to get rid of players last season. They stock has only fallen more since then.
The club have to get Casemiro, Varane, Maguire and Rashford of the books and hope there is a taker for McTominay who go down as 100% profit in terms of FFP book value.
Well yeah that's the grey area. None of us know what these non compete clauses are like. It's definitely not ideal as they might be able to just give a name on a whim, but they aren't part of the discussions when they should be the ones leading the discussions.The grey area is that we can easily be talking to these guys on the phone, and probably have been for months now. If they ask us to get a certain manager in place then, is that an issue?
They both can be sold for me this summer and yes I realise that leaves us without a captainRashford, Bruno and Garnacho are key to his tactics. We'd look worse without Bruno, yet everyone wants him dropped and doesn't realise this. He's literally the brains of the team, not Ten Hag.
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Oh yeah they have very little bottle at pressure timesCan Ten Hag be blamed for the goal conceded v Brentford plus the 2 late goals late night ?
Don’t get me wrong I want him sacked but some of our players are bottlers to be honest. It’s happened a lot this season where we score and we automatically give up a chance immediately after kick off . We’ve been made to pay a few times but we’ve been left off the hook more often than not .
Fighting for CL didn't quite work out.Win trophies, but not the Champions League just a Champions League spot
But we can do this and still clearly let go a manager who is offering a net negative to the club.It sends out the message that we are going to be patient and make the right moves rather than be pressured into panic decisions while we again try to sprint for instant success rather than following the smart process and understanding what the best route is.