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She still isInstead of players simply walking on the pitch, this is how teams will be introduced.
Good grief.....Jet was hot!
She still isInstead of players simply walking on the pitch, this is how teams will be introduced.
Good grief.....Jet was hot!
Correct, this has been inevitable for 20 years. No idea why some are so shocked by it.I am loving the drama of all this I have to say. Football was ruined the second they let countries and sugar daddies buy football clubs. I want this to blow up further.
Yeah but having to get up and watch it at 4am as it is coming from Tokyo is a right fecker."So did you watch Champions league last night? West Ham vs Sevilla, good game! Antonio is the best player in the world!"
"Nope, last night I watched United vs Real Madrid, Mbappe scored a hattrick for us. You should try watch it."
I replied to a poster saying the over reaction is from the cafDo you think it would make any difference to Liverpool if 50,000 fans boycotted all games? No of course not. There would be 50,000 to fill their space in a second...
On illegal streams hopefully.I'm going to complain about it until the first whistle of the first game, from that point I will watch it with passion.
Relegation is unlikely, but there is a threat that we don't qualify for Champions League each season because the likes of Leicester are run much better, hence the reason why we still spend big each summer.Aren’t we currently in a league where there is obscene amounts of money with no threat of relegation?
Not when they all have 5x the revenue of every other team, it will turn it into a complete procession every year. I know you could make an argument that it already is, but at least with the equitable sharing of TV money there is some semblance of competition.It's greatly in the PL's interest to keep the 6 big teams.
They won't be, though. How do you think Mastercard, Nissan and the rest of the sponsors are going to react to the competition being written off just before the main event?The players will be up in arms if they’re banned from the Euros.
Can’t see Pep et al taking it lying down if City get denied their first crack at a CL title. Tuchel will be mighty pissed off too.
It's an overreaction from a very minute group of people, be it Liverpool, United, or other football fans.I replied to a poster saying the over reaction is from the caf
Things change. 20 years ago Newcastle would be in this thing. Just because West Ham v Sevilla sounds stupid to you now it doesn't mean it always will be."So did you watch Champions league last night? West Ham vs Sevilla, good game! Antonio is the best player in the world!"
"Nope, last night I watched United vs Real Madrid, Mbappe scored a hattrick for us. You should try watch it."
But not to the hundreds of thousands of local fans who have spent time and money visiting Old Trafford through thick and thin. The fact they have openly acknowledged these supporters as 'legacy fans' says it all. Don't these people mean anything to the club? This goes against everything that Manchester United represents.People will say they will never watch it, but I'm sure with all that star power, fans and most importantly marketing budget, ESL will be something big.
No it’s not, it will eventually turn the games against Real Madrid into run of the mill games similar to a game against Everton. There will be no prestige to the tie.Yeah, daft argument.
It goes without saying.On illegal streams hopefully.
Exactly. The sponsors, image rights , broad casting companies . Banning the players? Really ?They won't be, though. How do you think Mastercard, Nissan and the rest of the sponsors are going to react to the competition being written off just before the main event?
What do you think the drop will be on the TV contracts etc. when the top 6 teams leave. The PL will essentially become worthless.Not when they all have 5x the revenue of every other team, it will turn it into a complete procession every year. I know you could make an argument that it already is, but at least with the equitable sharing of TV money there is some semblance of competition.
If the remaining 14 clubs move for expulsion then its a possibility for sure.
Well said.What is your point? We should get behind it?
There was a big fuss about the Qatar and Russia World Cups, it was the straw that broke the camels back when it came to public acknowledgment of corruption in football. There is a lot of concern about the growing financial disparity in football, about the Chelseas, the PSGs, the City's, the Barcas, the Real Madrids. People quite clearly detest the commercial and soulless nature of the likes of us and Liverpool, the ridiculous sums of money in football and the wages which come with that.
Football is broken and has been for years. It's just desserts for FIFA, UEFA, the PL and the other domestic leagues, I don't think anybody is arguing that. Nobody is shedding tears for them, we all know what they are. However, it's the fans that lose out here. It's a bunch of billionaires with zero interest in football effectively taking the game away from the fans and calling the shots as they see fit, and if you think the actual football, the sport, the competition, is top of the the agenda for the likes of the Glazers then you're in for a very big shock.
Letting in Arse and Spurs as well as no relegation makes a mockery of the "competition".Twitter Seriously, how spurs get in?1 day in and I am still baffled.
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Why do you support a competition with no relegation? For a team like Spurs?like there's never any dead rubbers in the current format? how about United needing to win their last few group games to make it to the knock out stages? that will just be dull, eh?
This sort of attitude fecking stinks. If you're obsessed with glossy names and soulless headlines go and follow American sports."So did you watch Champions league last night? West Ham vs Sevilla, good game! Antonio is the best player in the world!"
"Nope, last night I watched United vs Real Madrid, Mbappe scored a hattrick for us. You should try watch it."
This.You and me won't. However I know pretty well ton of casual fans worldwide won't give a shit and will just want to enjoy some football regardless of all the problems surrounding this system. Don't depend on fans, believe me, you'll be disappointed.
My step son is a groundsman at Bolton, will go and watch them or Altringham, the closes club to me.It won't happen. If it does though, go and watch Salford City or FCUM or Stockport County or Curzon Ashton. Whatevs. Going to smaller clubs is jolly nice. You can stand on a terrace behind the goal.
Where’ve you got the figures for this minute group of people? From what I’ve seen true passionate fans ‘legacy’ are against it but foreign tv viewing fans with passing interest are for it. I’d like to see what you’ve seen differentIt's an overreaction from a very minute group of people, be it Liverpool, United, or other football fans.
Premier League could vote through a motion as 14 votes are needed. If the PL clubs combine and vote together they can put in place provisions to expel the 6 clubs, especially if The FA vote as well.Not when they all have 5x the revenue of every other team, it will turn it into a complete procession every year. I know you could make an argument that it already is, but at least with the equitable sharing of TV money there is some semblance of competition.
If the remaining 14 clubs move for expulsion then its a possibility for sure.
yep. imagine the euros without the majority of the best players in the world, never going to happen in a million yearsThey won't be, though. How do you think Mastercard, Nissan and the rest of the sponsors are going to react to the competition being written off just before the main event?
That's the thing.Watching United in 10th play Inter in 12th with neither team able to be relegated or win anything doesn't sound terribly exciting to me. And you will VERY quickly see matches like that, games against Spurs, Arsenal, Athletico etc. lose their glamour and be the kind of games fans skip.
let's hope all 14 do it. Meeting tomorrow I believePremier League could vote through a motion as 14 votes are needed. If the PL clubs combine and vote together they can put in place provisions to expel the 6 clubs, especially if The FA vote as well.
Keeping them in would cause less financial damage to the other 14 teams.Premier League could vote through a motion as 14 votes are needed. If the PL clubs combine and vote together they can put in place provisions to expel the 6 clubs, especially if The FA vote as well.
and you are just the sort of fan the ESL is aimed at, the ones that will pay to watch top clubs and feck the rest."So did you watch Champions league last night? West Ham vs Sevilla, good game! Antonio is the best player in the world!"
"Nope, last night I watched United vs Real Madrid, Mbappe scored a hattrick for us. You should try watch it."
But we don't... we play at least 3 different teams in 6 different fixtures per annum.because we're all bored of watching united play pretty much the same teams in the league every year right?
i'm not necessarily supporting anything. just highlighting flaws in some of the arguments against the idea. i've already stated in the pros and cons thread that the lack of relegation is my main problem with it.Why do you support a competition with no relegation? For a team like Spurs?
Hahahahah!Man City fans are so livid about this they’ve started protesting by not turning up to games 10 years ago. Well ahead of the curve, those lot.
i was talking about the league, hence my usage of the word league.But we don't... we play 3 different teams in 6 different fixtures per annum.
Regarding the players, how can they be banned from the Euros without ever kicking a ball in anger in the Super League? I keep seeing this threat mentioned and still find it difficult to comprehend. Banning players for participating in a competition that won’t have even started yet. Good luck with that one.The players will be up in arms if they’re banned from the Euros.