Music Eurovision 2024

[nimic]

Has anyone actually had a big break and had a stellar career from eurovision in the last 20 years?

It's all relative. The Norwegian participants are Gåte, which were formed in 1999 (and then later took a very long break). They've active tourers, but they've been public about a good performance here (not even necessarily a win) giving them more opportunities. An example of a similar phenomenon could be Wig Wam, a glam metal/rock band whose song was used for the Peacemaker intro, which went viral. That's just an intro song for a TV series, but it suddenly meant they got offers to tour the US, for example.



Oh and for an actual example: ABBA. Edit: I just saw you said last 20 years. I haven't a clue.

 

[nimic]

Actually, speaking of Wig Wam, they were Norway's entry in 2005, and they were robbed IMO. Don't let 90 + 5min see this.

 

[DutchSerb]

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What the feck

 

[The Cat]

Still not watching.

 

[Jippy]

Lena is still successful and relevant in German speaking countries. Maneskin are extremely successful in all of Europe. They are headlining festivals this summer.

Cheers, was curious about other countries, given the UK has had so many no-hopers in recent years.

Must admit I've no clue how well known say Buck's Fizz and Sandie Sahw were pre-eurovision. Nor whether it had much bearing on the likes of Abba, Manfred Mann and Cliff Richard, who I assume were massive at the time anyway?

 

[nimic]

Cheers, was curious about other countries, given the UK has had so many no-hopers in recent years.

Must admit I've no clue how well known say Buck's Fizz and Sandie Sahw were pre-eurovision. Nor whether it had much bearing on the likes of Abba, Manfred Mann and Cliff Richard, who I assume were massive at the time anyway?

ABBA were formed in 1972 and won in 1974, and Waterloo was their first really big hit. I wasn't alive, so I couldn't tell you more than that, but it seems like Eurovision really did make ABBA ABBA.

 

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[Jippy]

It's all relative. The Norwegian participants are Gåte, which were formed in 1999 (and then later took a very long break). They've active tourers, but they've been public about a good performance here (not even necessarily a win) giving them more opportunities. An example of a similar phenomenon could be Wig Wam, a glam metal/rock band whose song was used for the Peacemaker intro, which went viral. That's just an intro song for a TV series, but it suddenly meant they got offers to tour the US, for example.



Oh and for an actual example: ABBA. Edit: I just saw you said last 20 years. I haven't a clue.

I guess it is relative, just wondered if it's spawned more than novelty acts in recent years versus the heavyweights of the 70s.
That Wigwam 95 song deserved it for the outfits alone.

 

[Jippy]

ABBA were formed in 1972 and won in 1974, and Waterloo was their first really big hit. I wasn't alive, so I couldn't tell you more than that, but it seems like Eurovision really did make ABBA ABBA.

Yeah I wasn't alive either and didn't know that. I think Dancing Queen is my least favourite song of all time.

 

[PSV]

Has anyone actually had a big break and had a stellar career from eurovision in the last 20 years?

Level in Eurovision is so high this song was voted 20th in 2022. Now it has over a billion streams.

 

[Acrobat7]

I just read that the Dutch singer is a Putin/Russia fan?

 

[nimic]

I just read that the Dutch singer is a Putin/Russia fan?

Where did you read that?

 

[KirkDuyt]

I just read that the Dutch singer is a Putin/Russia fan?

He made a song with a Russian band that came out shortly after the wat began, maybe it's that? He's not pro Putin at all. He has never said anything about the subject.

 

[Cheimoon]

I guess it is relative, just wondered if it's spawned more than novelty acts in recent years versus the heavyweights of the 70s.
That Wigwam 95 song deserved it for the outfits alone.

The Dutch artist is already big in the Netherlands and Belgium, so he definitely was not there to make a name for himself.

He's actually just a big Eurovision fan: he was campaigning for himself to be the Dutch artist (there's no competition in the Netherlands anymore). It's rather sad how that played out - but it remains to be seen what kind of gesture he actually made, of course.

But while I'm going on tangents anyway: I have to say I'm fascinated by the decision to exclude an artist based on an accusation that remains to be confirmed, while Israel as a country can participate while it is being accused of war crimes(!!) (formally, at the International Court of Justice). The hypocrisy is really mind-blowing here.

 

[Cheimoon]

Also, on YouTube, the live broadcast chat is being flooded with tons and tons of people writing 'Free Joost'. I wonder if they'll use their audience noise tech to block out audience chants of Europapa as well. Sounds just like the EBU, at this point.

 

[Acrobat7]

He made a song with a Russian band that came out shortly after the wat began, maybe it's that? He's not pro Putin at all. He has never said anything about the subject.

Just read that he collabed with a Russian band and performed there. All after the war had started. I didn‘t do any research on it. Just got sent a link.

 

[Samid]

They've actually scheduled 4 hours for this nonsense

 

[Sylar]

Kaarja just withdrew as the Finnish representative (who gives out the points), same as Alessandra. Not too surprising, given he ended his semi final appearance by shouting "stop war".

What a world we live in that stop war and ceasefire are seen as controversial

 

[CallyRed]

They have pushed MOTD to bbc2 at 10pm. Unbelievable

 

[hellhunter]

TIL Hooked on a Feeling is Swedish

 

[KirkDuyt]

Just read that he collabed with a Russian band and performed there. All after the war had started. I didn‘t do any research on it. Just got sent a link.

Yeah he did do a song with a band there shortly after the war started. Faved some backlash over it as well.

 

[nimic]

TIL Hooked on a Feeling is Swedish

Not really, just his version of it. Also probably the most famous version, to be fair.

 

[hellhunter]

Not really, just his version of it. Also probably the most famous version, to be fair.

Fair enough! Was the original version successful as well?

 

[Samid]

"United by music" my arse

 

[Shane88]

C'mon Bambie! Bring number 8 home. Those Swedes have gotten too cocky since levelling with us.

 

[hellhunter]

C'mon Bambie! Bring number 8 home. Those Swedes have gotten too cocky since levelling with us.

Has a host won it again before?

 

[Reiver]

Has a host won it again before?

Ireland maybe?

 

[Samid]

Has a host won it again before?

Didn't Ireland win like every year in the 90s

Lance Armstrong of ESC

 

[nimic]

Fair enough! Was the original version successful as well?

According to Wikipedia, yep. I wasn't actually aware of the original version myself before I started googling when the show started.

 

[hellhunter]

Didn't Ireland win like every year in the 90s

Lance Armstrong of ESC

One combined testicle?

 

[nimic]

The Dutch just announced they aren't giving out jury points, which feels like a "EBU can feck off" move. Wouldn't be remotely surprised if they decide not to participate at all next year.

 

[sebsheep]

Didn't Ireland win like every year in the 90s

Lance Armstrong of ESC

Do they not drug test this either?

 

[Reiver]

One combined testicle?

Not if the DUP get their way

 

[Withnail]

Didn't Ireland win like every year in the 90s

Lance Armstrong of ESC

Yeah we hosted it three years in a row or something. That's how we ended up sending Fr Ted instead of Dick Byrne in an effort to make sure we lost as we couldn't afford it anymore.

 

[Samid]

Traitor Twins going first

 

[Cheimoon]

Just read that he collabed with a Russian band and performed there. All after the war had started. I didn‘t do any research on it. Just got sent a link.

In case it helps, here are two articles about that stuff:

https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/12/12/a...ackass-russian-song-controversy-brews/278685/
https://www.nu.nl/muziek/6293797/jo...usland-ruim-voor-inval-niet-pro-russisch.html (in Dutch)

In short, the collaboration happened before the war, with a band that turned against Putin and left Russia after Russia invaded Ukraine. Joost's lyrics also don't express any appreciation for Russia, it's just bullshitting about loving Russian women.

So there's nothing political about it really. To my knowledge, Joost has anyway never really made political statements about anything anyway.

 

[hellhunter]

Solid 90s vibe to it

 

[Withnail]

The Swedish Jedward

 

[nimic]

Traitor Twins going first

Am I crazy for thinking they don't sing very well? They still sound like kids.

 

[Semper Fudge]

In case it helps, here are two articles about that stuff:

https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/12/12/a...ackass-russian-song-controversy-brews/278685/
https://www.nu.nl/muziek/6293797/jo...usland-ruim-voor-inval-niet-pro-russisch.html (in Dutch)

In short, the collaboration happened before the war, with a band that turned against Putin and left Russia after Russia invaded Ukraine. Joost's lyrics also don't express any appreciation for Russia, it's just bullshitting about loving Russian women.

So there's nothing political about it really. To my knowledge, Joost has anyway never really made political statements about anything anyway.

Isn't the song he was performing for this very pro-Europe too? Which would be an odd choice for a Russian shill.