Gut feeling here that united will end up with this kid in the future.
Evan Ferguson - Top Irish Prospect
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Decent is about it and probably comes from a glass half full perspective.
We’re desperately short on quality in midfield and it’s been like that for a decade or more.
Nah he'd get far more joy from firing Ireland to a World cup and them getting to knock outs than being a squad player with England.
Plenty. He is far from the 1st player to start in the premier league at 18. Rashford was doing this in 2016.
The hattrick really was not that spectacular. tap in, deflection and a pretty good strike. He is not leading the line, he came off the bench in their first 2 games and started only 10 premier league games last season. Hardly leading the line.
United did not sign Rooney until end of August. I cannot even remember us being linked with him before then but he had just proven himself the best player in the Euro championships which is where he arrived to the world and even Henry and French players were raving about him. That's why the bidding war started with us and Newcastle. Ferguson is a rotation player for Brighton who scored a fairly unspectacular hatrick vs Newcastle and he is £100 million all of a sudden? The hype is real
And how much do you think Rashford is worth?
£70 mill
Okay, sure.England wasted enough talent without trying to steal the little Ireland has.
We can't help it. It's part of our culture.
Name them.
already did in the post. Rashford, who also played alongside Januzaj who was starting at 18 just 2 seasons before. And this was Man Utd a bigger club where it is less likely for younger players to get those chances. Da Silva Brothers at Utd. Ronaldo, Giggs, Phil Jones, Luke Shaw (still going with the United trend), Greenwood.....
Ronaldo and Giggs aside perhaps…the rest you’ve mentioned looked and played like full grown men at 18? I don’t think so.
what is looking and playing like a full grown man though? its a bit subjective no. Do you mean played maturely for their age etc?
I bet you say that to all the girls.
pretty sure he qualifies for England anyway
If I had to look deep in my crystal ball, he will have another 3 seasons at Brighton and then go to City at the age of 21, to replace Haaland who has gone to Real Madrid.
Looks a really exciting talent. Pleased to see Ireland having some good young talent coming through. If him and Sinclair Armstrong keep developing then they have the potential to be a dangerous forward line for the irish. Would have been a good team if they had managed to hold on to Rice and Grealish aswell.
Funny
Bellingham and James Madison could also play for Ireland.
Interested to know what you make of him?
Big United fan.
If I had to look at my FM saves, he will join City in a couple of years to perpetually be Haaland's backup while Alvarez leaves to do the tour of Italian clubs.
Your first paragraph is really odd. Do you know what “leading the line” means? It’s another way of saying someone is playing as a centre forward. Which is what he does.
As for the hype, that started long before this hat trick. He’s started 12 top flight matches and scored 10 top flight goals. Can you name the last 18 year old who had stats to match those?
Rashford possibly. I get you are Irish so you may have a slight bias here. He has scored in 4 of his starts so its a really small sample. Scores more frequently off the bench.
I like him. He's got a bit of James Beattie in him
The way you think about money, mate, I am worried for you going into a local convenience store and getting taken advantage of.
Take care out there, it is a cruel world
Ferguson's goal-scoring record is already superior to Rashford. Rashford had made 43 PL appearances - and was a year older than Ferguson is now - by the time he had scored 10 PL goals.
Love him, super strong and rapid with a likeable personality. Currently developing and plays at 100% which means he is knackered after 60 mins and needs to be subbed off with cramp, but it's 60 minutes of excitement most of the time. Barring injuries, he will be a Premier League player in the next couple of years. Just needs a bit more luck, stamina and for his finishing to improve a bit. Has all the tools.
I took it to mean playing with a maturity and certain level of accomplishment way beyond his years.
Cheers. Who would you compare him with? (I’ve only seen snippets)
Never going to happen for the same reason Osimhen didn't. Club don't have the resources to compete in the market for the player (Glazers wonderful) and come end of the season other positions will need reinforcement.
Hopefully our next manager can bring him with him when he takes the job
Top Talent. Will score 100 PL Goals.
How about we buy the Brighton recruitment department instead
It's hard to see him staying at Brighton another three years if he keeps developing at this pace.
I think he leaves next summer or maybe the following summer for a pretty astronomical fee in the 120-150m range.
Yes that's going pretty well at Chelsea and let's revisit Brighton's story in next couple of years they have done well so far but let's see how they fare when they start spending slightly more for their signings and have greater expectations than just surviving .
Just like Caiced…….Oh
He had an injury preseason so was not fully fit to start the season, he is absolutely their #1 striker now when fit. He may not start some lesser games which would be understandable especially at his age, don't want to flog him like a lot of young players were previously.
I would also suggest that if you have seen a lot more of his play than an 'unspectacular' hattrick, you'd have far more appreciation of his game and abilities.
Seems a strange thing to praise a player over. Football is historically littered with players who represented county teams and get picked up by clubs at ages 14-18 because they had matured quicker than everyone else and run over the top of their age group. Once everyone catches up they quickly fall off because they just aren’t good enough without the physical advantage. Not saying this is Ferguson, just calling out the general point that playing like a man is such a thing to focus on.
I think in the game these days you need to be smart as a forward, movement off the ball and the ability to bring the wide forwards/number 10s into the game is so important that without it you’ll never play for the top teams.
Rashford at 18 had nowhere near the level of physicality that Evan Ferguson does now. It took a lot longer for Rashford to look like a man in that sense. Rooney had it.
Brighton have decided to rotate Ferguson's minutes with Welbeck as a way of managing him but that doesn't mean he isn't capable of being the main man for them up there. He looks ready for it. I'm sure he will be starting the majority of games for them by Christmas, barring injury.
He's not running over youth teams he may have had a physical advantage over, he's running over experienced top level footballers and at his age you would imagine he has so much more to improve on.