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I'm surprised such a benign thing is causing so much angst.Exactly - it’s a cnutish move driven by self interest.
I'm surprised such a benign thing is causing so much angst.Exactly - it’s a cnutish move driven by self interest.
Didn't seem to alienate him from his adoring fans in Brazil. Not all who were Brazilian I suspect.I did - like I say celebrate with the fans, do a lap after the race waving it to give back and show your appreciation for the crowds support. I just think it’s odd as a Brit standing in another national flag whilst your countries national anthem is playing to celebrate your win.
I think it’s one of those things that he does that alienates him from people.
What. Every race.I would rather they just got rid of the national anthems. Or even better, just play the Brazilian one, it’s a million times better than ours.
Won't lose sleep but you're basically calling him a cnut for it. It seems to have you pretty riled. Are you that patriotic?Exactly - it’s a cnutish move driven by self interest.
Poor wording I guess. I just find it odd behaviour during a national anthem.Won't lose sleep but you're basically calling him a cnut for it. It seems to have you pretty riled. Are you that patriotic?
With an austrian boss and a finnish teammate. Nationality really plays next to no role in F1.Best race weekend I've seen in a long time and the thing used to beat Lewis with is the Brazilian flag. I really don't get some people this is not a National sport and he isn't even racing for a British team he's racing for a German one.
Yeah sure. I don’t believe in god and I dislike the monarchy. It’s a complete irrelevance for me.What. Every race.
I know right.With an austrian boss and a finnish teammate. Nationality really plays next to no role in F1.
utter rubbish. You are one of the very few to even mention it, not even the hate squad on Facebook are bothered by it.Exactly - it’s a cnutish move driven by self interest.
surely a parody post this? No one could get that upset about a flag.Oh feck off - I was a staunch remainer but there’s something wrong about listening to the national anthem with the Union Jack behind him whilst draped in another countries flag.
Would you or other posters cool with it be happy with someonefrom team gb getting a gold medal at the olympics draped in another countries flag? It’s fecking disrespectful.
I have no issue with him driving with the flag celebrating or even respecting the crowd, but not whilst the national anthem is playing.
Watch them disqualify him or put him to the back of the grid for the next race.Hamilton summoned to the stewards shortly. Use (or lack of) of the safety belts whilst driving. Most likely when he stopped to collect the Brazilian flag on the in lap.
It's just a flag.Again, I’m all for him paying back the respect to the crowd and celebrating with the flag but don’t listen to your countries national anthem wearing the flag of another nation - it’s just dosrespectful.
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Didn’t he take a new ICU last week though? Or was it 2 weeks agoNo new ICU for Bottas though, which seems like it will be the determining factor for the championship.
It was all about the long straights today as Red Bull is quicker around fast corners but Merc is faster in the straight.Didn’t he take a new ICU last week though? Or was it 2 weeks ago
Because not wearing the safety belts was putting Hamilton in more danger than being driven off the track.... by Max.Hamilton summoned to the stewards shortly. Use (or lack of) of the safety belts whilst driving. Most likely when he stopped to collect the Brazilian flag on the in lap.
Edit: Only Ron Meadows going, most likely a reprimand/fine.
I was wondering whether the replacement ICU actually gives that much more power than the old one. Or whether it allows Mercedes to operate it to its maximum with less risk of failure but for longer.Didn’t he take a new ICU last week though? Or was it 2 weeks ago
Very good point.@Heardy im not sure if someone else has already mentioned it, but I think you have to take in the context. Every track he has been to since Silverstone, the fans have heavily been in favour of Max. I think this is genuinely the first track he’s had the most support since then. The fans have always been incredible to him for many years too. I think this is really important to understand this. Put another way, how many other races have you seen Hamilton do this?
Is that right? I always thought long, high speed corners favoured Mercedes. And that it was the slower corners that really favoured Red Bull. If you’re using Mexico and that sweeping section (or the US) as a benchmark, they’re anomalies I think because in those cases Red Bull gained the advantage because of their ability to use the curbs (Mexico) and handle the bumps better (US) because of their high rake. Otherwise I thought Merc was faster on those types of corners. I could be wrong though.It was all about the long straights today as Red Bull is quicker around fast corners but Merc is faster in the straight.
Yes this could be a point too. I really don’t know. I have heard that the Merc ICU has a higher performance drop through W&T than the Honda, though.I was wondering whether the replacement ICU actually gives that much more power than the old one. Or whether it allows Mercedes to operate it to its maximum with less risk of failure but for longer.
Hard to know exactly but remember the old icu if they were trying to nurse it through 10 GPS to get to the end of the season vs having one that only has to last 4 races will give you more opportunity to push boundriesI was wondering whether the replacement ICU actually gives that much more power than the old one. Or whether it allows Mercedes to operate it to its maximum with less risk of failure but for longer.
Same thing with the ICE, you can operate at more power with less risk of failure. Mercedes have experimented with Bottas over the last few races on what is possible with the engine. I don't think Mercedes will look at other new engines for the rest of the season, purely as the overtaking ability at the circuits (including 2 new ones) won't be as obvious as Brazil.I was wondering whether the replacement ICU actually gives that much more power than the old one. Or whether it allows Mercedes to operate it to its maximum with less risk of failure but for longer.
Thats a very good point and something that had passed me by if I’m honest!!@Heardy im not sure if someone else has already mentioned it, but I think you have to take in the context. Every track he has been to since Silverstone, the fans have heavily been in favour of Max. I think this is genuinely the first track he’s had the most support since then. The fans have always been incredible to him for many years too. I think this is really important to understand this. Put another way, how many other races have you seen Hamilton do this?
Which is exactly why he is an insufferable hypocrite.Tbf I wouldn't expect him to say anything else
It's only a flag mate. Calm down.Oh feck off - I was a staunch remainer but there’s something wrong about listening to the national anthem with the Union Jack behind him whilst draped in another countries flag.
Would you or other posters cool with it be happy with someonefrom team gb getting a gold medal at the olympics draped in another countries flag? It’s fecking disrespectful.
I have no issue with him driving with the flag celebrating or even respecting the crowd, but not whilst the national anthem is playing.
i’m with heardy, my grandad didn’t sell intel to the germans in ww2 to have our anthem disrespected by hamilton holding another country’s flag.
Sounds right doesn't it. Honda do reliability so well.Yes this could be a point too. I really don’t know. I have heard that the Merc ICU has a higher performance drop through W&T than the Honda, though.
Understood. Thanks.Hard to know exactly but remember the old icu if they were trying to nurse it through 10 GPS to get to the end of the season vs having one that only has to last 4 races will give you more opportunity to push boundries
With the truck suspension potentially giving them the downforce reduction now as well they can optimise the engine for a higher top speed knowing they will still have sufficient diwnforce for the corners
All probably small gains but a large gain in f1 is often several small gains packaged up together