F1 2021 Season

Qatar FP Timings
Qatar GP Practice One Timesheet
DriverTeamTime
1) Max VerstappenRed Bull1:23.723
2) Pierre GaslyAlphaTauri+0.437
3) Valtteri BottasMercedes+0.471
4) Lewis HamiltonMercedes+0.786
5) Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri+0.925
6) Carlos SainzFerrari+0.990
7) Charles LeclercFerrari+1.067
8) Sergio PerezRed Bull+1.192
9) Esteban OconAlpine+1.249
10) Lando NorrisMcLaren+1.492
11) Daniel RicciardoMcLaren+1.568
12) Sebastian VettelAston Martin+1.605
13) Nicholas LatifiWilliams+1.965
14) Antonio GiovinazziAlfa Romeo+2.034
15) Kimi RaikkonenAlfa Romeo+2.105
16) George RussellWilliams+2.148
17) Fernando AlonsoAlpine+2.182
18) Mick SchumacherHaas+2.976
19) Lance StrollAston Martin+2.989
20) Nikita MazepinHaas+3.777

Qatar GP Practice Two Timesheet
DriverTeamTime
1) Valtteri BottasMercedes1:23.148
2) Pierre GaslyAlphaTauri+0.209
3) Max VerstappenRed Bull+0.350
4) Lewis HamiltonMercedes+0.422
5) Lando NorrisMcLaren+0.484
6) Lance StrollAston Martin+0.557
7) Yuki TsunodaAlphaTauri+0.587
8) Sergio PerezRed Bull+0.639
9) Sebastian VettelAston Martin+0.872
10) Carlos SainzFerrari+0.885
11) Esteban OconAlpine+0.893
12) Fernando AlonsoAlpine+0.908
13) Charles LeclercFerrari+0.947
14) Daniel RicciardoMcLaren+0.987
15) Kimi RaikkonenAlfa Romeo+1.483
16) George RussellWilliams+1.806
17) Antonio GiovinazziAlfa Romeo+1.924
18) Nicholas LatifiWilliams+2.061
19) Mick SchumacherHaas+2.427
20) Nikita MazepinHaasNo time set
 
Where has this performance from Gasly come from lately?

Either the car has stepped up massively or he's riding some mega form. He's looked mega in the last 3/4 races.
 
Where has this performance from Gasly come from lately?

Either the car has stepped up massively or he's riding some mega form. He's looked mega in the last 3/4 races.

He is and has always been an incredibly talented driver. That’s why he got his promotion into the RB seat when he did.

However unfortunately he didn’t appear to be able to handle the higher pressure that comes with being in a top team. Perhaps he didn’t receive a long enough chance. Perhaps that environment is genuinely not meant for him. But regardless when he is relaxed he’s really very good.
 
what I find daft is that Horner really thinks the Merc wing is illegal, there is no way any team would drive with such a wing, with intention of cheating, there is far too much scrutiny.
I am not saying that Mercedes have not found a way to change things within the rules, maybe bending them, have RB not done the same in the past ?
But out and out cheating and that is what he is hinting at, then no I cant believe that.
 
He is and has always been an incredibly talented driver. That’s why he got his promotion into the RB seat when he did.

However unfortunately he didn’t appear to be able to handle the higher pressure that comes with being in a top team. Perhaps he didn’t receive a long enough chance. Perhaps that environment is genuinely not meant for him. But regardless when he is relaxed he’s really very good.
I believe Horner is a terrible man manager unless you are his number one. Toxic environment for any young, up and coming driver.
 
what I find daft is that Horner really thinks the Merc wing is illegal, there is no way any team would drive with such a wing, with intention of cheating, there is far too much scrutiny.
I am not saying that Mercedes have not found a way to change things within the rules, maybe bending them, have RB not done the same in the past ?
But out and out cheating and that is what he is hinting at, then no I cant believe that.
Mate I’ve long gotten past the stage of listening to anything he says. I pay no attention to him and my life is better for it.
 
Where has this performance from Gasly come from lately?

Either the car has stepped up massively or he's riding some mega form. He's looked mega in the last 3/4 races.
He has always been a good driver, maybe his time at Red Bull came a tad to soon.
Maybe Horner was part of the problem, maybe it was Max, but since leaving RB I think he has improved.
 
A bit late to the conversation but it was disappointing that max didnt even get a warning for turn 4 last weekend after the stewards reviewed the new footage but it is what it is.

Leclerc said max's defending last weekend will be brought up in the drivers briefing with michael masi this weekend before the gp especially in regards to moves around the outside and being given the correct amount of space as per the rules.

Not seen any of FP1 or FP2, reading the comments on here about horner makes me think he is panicking.
 
It will be difficult for the FIA to punish a driver blocking anyone on the outside for the rest of the season now.

This may go against Red Bull if the Mercedes engine / drag advantage is enough to overtake in DRS zones. The car in front can do what they want to cover the outside while taking the inside line, so the only way to overtake is get in front on the straights.
 
It will be difficult for the FIA to punish a driver blocking anyone on the outside for the rest of the season now.

This may go against Red Bull if the Mercedes engine / drag advantage is enough to overtake in DRS zones. The car in front can do what they want to cover the outside while taking the inside line, so the only way to overtake is get in front on the straights.

Don't be so sure. Max has consistently gotten away with things other drivers have been punished for.
 
He is and has always been an incredibly talented driver. That’s why he got his promotion into the RB seat when he did.

However unfortunately he didn’t appear to be able to handle the higher pressure that comes with being in a top team. Perhaps he didn’t receive a long enough chance. Perhaps that environment is genuinely not meant for him. But regardless when he is relaxed he’s really very good.
His red bull car was a dog iirc
 
It will be difficult for the FIA to punish a driver blocking anyone on the outside for the rest of the season now.

This may go against Red Bull if the Mercedes engine / drag advantage is enough to overtake in DRS zones. The car in front can do what they want to cover the outside while taking the inside line, so the only way to overtake is get in front on the straights.
To be honest does anyone really expect them not to punish the next person who does exactly what Max does?


It's not Max's action that was legal, it was Max who's nonpunishable for TV ratings.
 
To be honest does anyone really expect them not to punish the next person who does exactly what Max does?


It's not Max's action that was legal, it was Max who's nonpunishable for TV ratings.
There's probably a desire for max to become the champion from within the FIA. Hes young, will probably attract a new audience etc etc.

Theres also probably a desire from somewhere in FIA not to have lewis win more WDC that schmacher.
 
Agree with the others, good post. I do however disagree with Max cruising. It's a race at the end of the day and if they did go back for a 5-second penalty it's his own damn fault for not racing. My perspective anyhow
They've to manage that engine to last for the last 3 race. Too much of a gamble to risk changing to a new one and getting hit with a grid penalty unless they know they'll be so dominant in a track like how Mercedes was at Sau Paolo.
 
To be honest does anyone really expect them not to punish the next person who does exactly what Max does?


It's not Max's action that was legal, it was Max who's nonpunishable for TV ratings.
It has nothing to do with TV ratings, it's been clear for a few years now that Max is being treated with a separate rulebook from the rest.

F1 needs a new champion and they've seemingly decided that Max is their golden boy.
 
There's probably a desire for max to become the champion from within the FIA. Hes young, will probably attract a new audience etc etc.

Theres also probably a desire from somewhere in FIA not to have lewis win more WDC that schmacher.

Verstappen makes me not want to watch F1 at all.

Lewis isn't much better either. 2 of the biggest cry baby drama queens ever.
 
what I find daft is that Horner really thinks the Merc wing is illegal, there is no way any team would drive with such a wing, with intention of cheating, there is far too much scrutiny.
I am not saying that Mercedes have not found a way to change things within the rules, maybe bending them, have RB not done the same in the past ?
But out and out cheating and that is what he is hinting at, then no I cant believe that.
It is strange given the intense scrutiny the whole issue has had with everyone from the global media to armchair fans searching every frame from every camera angle available.
The FIA spent enough time examining the thing last week too. If Mercedes are pushing any technical boundaries, which teams obviously do, there's clearly no obvious transgression, like Horner is implying. It must be very subtle.
 
I think Horner being suspicious is fine and even Toto said that part of the job is to make sure the opponents don’t get unfair advantage but I feel the way he is going about it is so annoying . If you have doubts then just come out and complain so that they can be cleared. This constant badgering is a very poor look for the sport and undermines everyone associated with the FIA
 
With the Mercedes speed in FP 2 & 3 here, and Brazil, and looking at the final few circuits, I could easily see Lewis overtaking Max in the championship. Even if Hamilton doesn't qualify on pole it seems more likely it would be Bottas, who would move over for him.
 
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With the Mercedes speed in FP 2 & 3 here, and Brazil, and looking at the final few circuits, I could easily see Lewis overtaking Max in the championship. Even if Hamilton doesn't qualify one pole it seems more likely it would be Bottas, who would move over for him.
Well, not so sure about that.
 
Well, not so sure about that.

You’re joking? Bottas will move over for anybody :lol:. He showed in Brazil that he’s more than happy to shift for both Vertsappen and Hamilton in the opening few laps. He’s just out for a leisurely drive and doesn’t want to get in anyones way
 
You’re joking? Bottas will move over for anybody :lol:. He showed in Brazil that he’s more than happy to shift for both Vertsappen and Hamilton in the opening few laps. He’s just out for a leisurely drive and doesn’t want to get in anyones way
Didn't he recently move away for Max while blocking Lewis in the same move at the start?
 
I think Horner being suspicious is fine and even Toto said that part of the job is to make sure the opponents don’t get unfair advantage but I feel the way he is going about it is so annoying . If you have doubts then just come out and complain so that they can be cleared. This constant badgering is a very poor look for the sport and undermines everyone associated with the FIA
This is fine and yes part of his job, but the constant, snide they are cheating comments are annoying.
 
Quilfying is important, not many passing places
This could be pole to win race.
For sure. Unless you’ve such a big tyre or spews advantage, you simply cant follow close enough on corners like this in order to pass on the main straight. Not to mention the first turn just does not help either. I think there is very very limited room for meaningful overtakes. Having said that, perhaps small mistakes on a circuit like this cost a driver more. So that might present opportunities.
 
For sure. Unless you’ve such a big tyre or spews advantage, you simply cant follow close enough on corners like this in order to pass on the main straight. Not to mention the first turn just does not help either. I think there is very very limited room for meaningful overtakes. Having said that, perhaps small mistakes on a circuit like this cost a driver more. So that might present opportunities.
Tyre deg on this track will be really high, so if overtaking is as limited as suggested, ie just the main straight. Then this race could be decided by an under or over cut and flawless pitstop or two
 
For sure. Unless you’ve such a big tyre or spews advantage, you simply cant follow close enough on corners like this in order to pass on the main straight. Not to mention the first turn just does not help either. I think there is very very limited room for meaningful overtakes. Having said that, perhaps small mistakes on a circuit like this cost a driver more. So that might present opportunities.
Tyres and pits will be huge I think.
They don't really know how high tyre deg will be, even a slightly slow pit could cost teams here.
 
Horner going on about the straight line speed & rear wing again . He is saying that FIA will test the car after qualifying
 
little chris horner
sat in the corner,
“cheating is mercedes b”
he stuck in his thumb,
cried out for his mum
and said “what a good boy max is”
 
This is fine and yes part of his job, but the constant, snide they are cheating comments are annoying.

Horner keeps on about the Mercedes 'exonential' straight line speed.
What does that even mean.
Exponential applies to a rate of change if I have understood it correctly.
That being the case, he must be referring to the Mercedes straight line speed increasing race after race?