Cassidy
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Would have been unprecedented too to be honestEither that or leave the cars between Lewis and Max and make him have to work for the win.
Would have been unprecedented too to be honestEither that or leave the cars between Lewis and Max and make him have to work for the win.
If that’s how it’s ruled, F1 is over as a sport and it becomes entertainment only, like WWE. It also opens it up to all sorts of issues with the bookies.If the race director is allowed to make discretionary decisions (which Sky seem to be saying he does) then you're right.
Yes the race director is allowed. Based on safety etc.If the race director is allowed to make discretionary decisions (which Sky seem to be saying he does) then you're right.
He’s tripping over himself bless him.So much for wanting a fair race
This is the result I want from this. The bloke has had a disaster all season.what ever happens Masi should never be in charge of an F1 race ever again
They disregarded their own rules. You're arguing nonsense. You say you want racing, well Hamilton was clearly the better driver today, then say its just bad luck and ignore rules were bent.Safety cars have been around forever mate. Extremely unfair at times. Hamilton has been on the other side plenty of times.
OH Come stop with this , it is complete and utter rubbish.Was trying to avoid the result, so I can watch tonight, but ny brother in law who's expecting a baby text me the result. I had my phone data off and just checked his message incase it was about the baby. He doesnt even watch f1 normally. So mad.
Will watch the highlights tonight now, have seen the first lap incident. From what I've read, sound like FIA cheated lewis out of a deserved victory and got what they wanted. Schmachers 7 world titles not being beaten, by a black man who will wear a rainbow helmet.
Gutted for lewis. It's a new dawn in f1 racing, rules of engagement are different now. Its lunging down in the inside, pushing people off track and bumper cars. Shame the likes of Senna, mansell, piquet and schmacher arent around to stick max into a wall.
Which is further proof that F1 isn't a sport, it's sports entertainment.If the race director is allowed to make discretionary decisions (which Sky seem to be saying he does) then you're right.
no matter what is decided, it’s not going to fix what happened today. it’s like this old family saying we have, “you can’t unfeck the turkey, rimaldo, christmas is ruined.”
He seems to have made the call based not on safety but because its a better spectacle. He's not wrong!Yes the race director is allowed. Based on safety etc.
Formula 1 has never been fair with the safety cars. Strange people all of a sudden realize this when their favorite driver loses. People in here were cheering when Bottas took out Verstappen via Norris. Was also extremely unfair. It happens. Part of racing.So much for wanting a fair race
RatingsNah no chance. But imagine the the publicity if it did! They should do it for the good of f1!!
Agree, and essentially just for making up his own safety car procedures. If it's anti-climactic (ending behind SC) then it's anti-climactic, if it's unfair like a SC happening 3 laps earlier and everything done by the books and Verstappen taking it, then that's fine too. Follow the rules and the chips will fall as they may, but you can't be a legitimate referee if you're making up procedure that clearly favors any one team or driver even in a single circumstance.what ever happens Masi should never be in charge of an F1 race ever again
oh dearWas trying to avoid the result, so I can watch tonight, but ny brother in law who's expecting a baby text me the result. I had my phone data off and just checked his message incase it was about the baby. He doesnt even watch f1 normally. So mad.
Will watch the highlights tonight now, have seen the first lap incident. From what I've read, sound like FIA cheated lewis out of a deserved victory and got what they wanted. Schmachers 7 world titles not being beaten, by a black man who will wear a rainbow helmet.
Gutted for lewis. It's a new dawn in f1 racing, rules of engagement are different now. Its lunging down in the inside, pushing people off track and bumper cars. Shame the likes of Senna, mansell, piquet and schmacher arent around to stick max into a wall.
Was it the wrong decisionBecause they gambled on safety car going till the end.
Basically Merc had much faster car today but made wrong decision on every possible step (covering Max when Hamilton could go much further, not pitting on VSC and not oitting on SC). Toto should probably strees his anger on his team instead of damaging sports reputation.
I've never seen them only allow the cars between 1st and 2nd place unlap themselves rather than all of them though. I've also never seen them not wait until the lapped cars have caught onto the back of the rest either.Safety cars have been around forever mate. Extremely unfair at times. Hamilton has been on the other side plenty of times.
They will likely clarify the rules further which happens alot.If that’s how it’s ruled, F1 is over as a sport and it becomes entertainment only, like WWE. It also opens it up to all sorts of issues with the bookies.
It is not the safety car but the FIA allowing only 5 cars to unlap themselves which gave Max the advantage.Safety cars have been around forever mate. Extremely unfair at times. Hamilton has been on the other side plenty of times.
Because the regulations were thrown out in favour of a Deus Ex Machina.In my opinion the first decision to cover Max was the worst one and if he wouldn't do that he will have enough lead by the SC that he could pit and come out bwfore Max. Also if they would pitted under VSC Hamilton would have much fresher tires as he did in the end and could have defended much better.
They basically played it safe each time and playing safe cost them the championship.
You're having a mare hereFormula 1 has never been fair with the safety cars. Strange people all of a sudden realize this when their favorite driver loses. People in here were cheering when Bottas took out Verstappen via Norris. Was also extremely unfair. It happens. Part of racing.
It was unfair sporting wise not rule wise. If the whole season was fair Verstappen would have been champion too. Remember Bottas, Silverstone etc. But all of a sudden now it’s different.They disregarded their own rules. You're arguing nonsense. You say you want racing, well Hamilton was clearly the better driver today, then say its just bad luck and ignore rules were bent.
Isn't this obvious? What sport let's participants compete on completely unequal footing. Its like letting Valentino Rossi compete in the tour de france om his Moto gp bike.Which is further proof that F1 isn't a sport, it's sports entertainment.
They had to either allow all the cars to overtake Lewis and join the back of the pack or allow none to overtake and restart the race as the pack stood. Allowing only the cars between Lewis and Max gave Max an unfair advantages.I get that Hamilton got screwed, but what rules /laws were supposedly contrevened?
I think Mercedes thought there was a.gpod chance they couldn't get loonys car off in 5 laps and even if they did, Lewis would drive away while Max had 5 cars to get passed. Don't think it's cowardly more playing the odds.That's fair enough. Still seems cowardly to me.
Also don't misunderstand, I don't give a feck who won. Though I will always prefer an underdog, the insane adulation for Max over here is killling me. No self respecting Feyenoord fan jumps on bandwagons.
Hamilton was a sitting duck too.It all felt a bit setup for the last lap straight shootout.
Yes, under the VSC later he might have had enough of a gap to pit even on the 2nd VSC lap and not worry if the VSC ended even as they were in the pits. Essentially he might have had a full regular pit-stop gap on Verstappen.Would Hamilton have pitted a 2nd time at some point if Perez hadnt held him up and shaved 6-7 seconds off his lead?
Which would’ve been ok if it had been fair. Red flag the race and let them go for the last 5 if you want to create drama. That last lap wasn’t really racing. It was max taking advantage of a wounded HamiltonIt all felt a bit setup for the last lap straight shootout.
How did the rules dictate how the race should've ended when there's no rule that says a SC must be out there X number of laps? If they had removed Latifi's car and cleaned up the mess in 2-3min then the SC would've come in long before it did.Because he’d have lost track position when the rules dictated that the race should’ve finished behind the SC, therefore throwing away the championships
Good point, it's not RB being questionedI find it very odd Red Bull are there for the decision…they aren’t protesting them!
Agreed.what ever happens Masi should never be in charge of an F1 race ever again