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Soooooo, why didn't Hamilton pit like Max?
Because they gambled on safety car going till the end.
Basically Merc had much faster car today but made wrong decision on every possible step (covering Max when Hamilton could go much further, not pitting on VSC and not oitting on SC). Toto should probably strees his anger on his team instead of damaging sports reputation.
 

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If a team was leading 1-0 in the last 5 minutes and someone had to go off injured, would you be happy with the referee deciding it would be decided with a penalty shoot out?
Its not a good analogy. Because if you read the rules they didnt actually change them. The rule has an if in the wording
 

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Because they gambled on safety car going till the end.
Basically Merc had much faster car today but made wrong decision on every possible step (covering Max when Hamilton could go much further, not pitting on VSC and not oitting on SC). Toto should probably strees his anger on his team instead of damaging sports reputation.
They were leading. There was no way they could make the right decision. Any decision they made Verstappen could gain an advantage by doing the opposite.
 

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Because they gambled on safety car going till the end.
Basically Merc had much faster car today but made wrong decision on every possible step (covering Max when Hamilton could go much further, not pitting on VSC and not oitting on SC). Toto should probably strees his anger on his team instead of damaging sports reputation.
Pretty much. Although the last call in reality was probably the right one weighing up all the probabilities.
 

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Nothing will happen with the protests, it's just more theater, the championship has been handed out and that's pretty much the end of it.

The only thing they can do is to get rid of Masi, who's been an inconsistent mess all year, and bring in a race director who can handle the pressure and stick to the rules.
and the team principles need to behave and stop trying to pressure the Race Director.
Wolf and Horner were both guilty.

Verstappen is the Champion, he did what he needed to do.
 

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In football terms, Hamilton was 3-0 up with 5 mins to go, at which point the ref decides that its next goal wins, but Hamilton has to play with no keeper or defenders, and Verstappen is given the ball because he is 3-0 down
I get that Hamilton got screwed, but what rules /laws were supposedly contrevened?
 

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Eh? I mean whatever is decided in this protest is going to CAS. Regardless of the outcome.
ffs, you just sound just like my nan. as i said to her “quit your whining and just around the cummy bits.”
 

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If a team was leading 1-0 in the last 5 minutes and someone had to go off injured, would you be happy with the referee deciding it would be decided with a penalty shoot out?
It’s been like that for years though. It’s part of the sport. Happens all the time. Is it unlucky, yes. Is it unfair sporting wise, yes. Is it part of the sport, unfortunately Yes but Mercedes wouldn’t complain if it was the other way around.
 

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There was plenty of racing all of the laps before.
What he wanted was the rules to be applied correctly.
Which they weren’t.
Its not a fact the rules were not correctly applied. If toy actually read the rule in question there there is an IF in the wording.
 

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There's no way in a million years this gets overturned tonight.
Literally zero chance. As I said earlier they will stick by what’s happened because that’s what has been broadcast and documented. It’s much better optics for this to be overturned by CAS.
 

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Its not a good analogy. Because if you read the rules they didnt actually change them. The rule has an if in the wording
Even if you are right, isn't that farcical too? Allowing rules to be adapted literally last minute to suit?

I'd have been happier for the last lap race, but allowing Hamilton to change his tyres.
 

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Craig Slater thinks Mercedes will accept the decision whatever the outcome.

Not a prayer. Whatever the outcome, this is going to CAS.
 

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I'm not anti Scottish, I just wanted Moyes out.
If a team was leading 1-0 in the last 5 minutes and someone had to go off injured, would you be happy with the referee deciding it would be decided with a penalty shoot out?
It's worse than that. They even gave Verstappen a new set of tires. Under no possible way during the course of this race would Verstappen be level on Hamilton for the final lap with a new set of tyres. It's ridiculous.
 

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He had over a 10 second lead with Red Bull admitting it was over. The race was done. Hamilton deserved to win.
Safety cars have been around forever mate. Extremely unfair at times. Hamilton has been on the other side plenty of times.
 

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Was trying to avoid the result, so I can watch tonight, but ny brother in law who's expecting a baby text me the result. I had my phone data off and just checked his message incase it was about the baby. He doesnt even watch f1 normally. So mad.

Will watch the highlights tonight now, have seen the first lap incident. From what I've read, sound like FIA cheated lewis out of a deserved victory and got what they wanted. Schmachers 7 world titles not being beaten, by a black man who will wear a rainbow helmet.

Gutted for lewis. It's a new dawn in f1 racing, rules of engagement are different now. Its lunging down in the inside, pushing people off track and bumper cars. Shame the likes of Senna, mansell, piquet and schmacher arent around to stick max into a wall.
What a load of crap!
 

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It's worse than that. They even gave Verstappen a new set of tires. Under no possible way during the course of this race would Verstappen be level on Hamilton for the final lap with a new set of tyres. It's ridiculous.
No they didn't. Verstappen made a perfectly legal pit stop, and Hamilton could've chosen to do the same. FIA had no hand in Verstappen's tires.
 

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Probably but I don't think speed was their thinking, it was not wanting to have to overtake Max ..

... on the billion to one chance Max did something silly
That's fair enough. Still seems cowardly to me.

Also don't misunderstand, I don't give a feck who won. Though I will always prefer an underdog, the insane adulation for Max over here is killling me. No self respecting Feyenoord fan jumps on bandwagons.
 

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They were leading. There was no way they could make the right decision. Any decision they made Verstappen could gain an advantage by doing the opposite.
In my opinion the first decision to cover Max was the worst one and if he wouldn't do that he will have enough lead by the SC that he could pit and come out bwfore Max. Also if they would pitted under VSC Hamilton would have much fresher tires as he did in the end and could have defended much better.
They basically played it safe each time and playing safe cost them the championship.
 

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Craig Slater thinks Mercedes will accept the decision whatever the outcome.

Not a prayer. Whatever the outcome, this is going to CAS.
Reckon there’s some truth to that, Lewis has handled this well and doesn’t want this to drag on. He’s certain the GOAT of my generation.