Mate show me another race in history where the director decides it's just the right amount to get the top 2 back in order, and only them. To get one lap of racing, no less.
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*6 of the last 7.
It was a brilliant run for Max, I'm delighted for Honda as well. Driver, team and engine really stepped up this year
Which previous GP did the officials say no-one can unlap themselves, then SOME cars can unlap themselves? (pick any season you want)
He's a troll.
I appreciate him more than that Eindoven dude though, at least this one isn't pretending to be serious
And he's a Community fan so can be trusted
F1 stewarding has been inconsistent for many years, they need to get together and straighten out some of the more ridiculous rules.
Allowing un lapped cars to un lap themselves, changing components on Cars under Red Flag conditions.
Do away with many of the run off areas and get the Gravel traps back.
Same stewards for as much races as possible.
I genuinely feel that Masi just wanted to finish the race under race conditions, nothing sinister.
Has that happened before? Where it was just some cars that went ahead?
That’s how I read it too. He has full authority of when it’s deployed and is withdrawn - with regards to the how he has the two options outlined in the regulations. Otherwise there’s no point in having regulations.
People are intentionally ignoring that fact. They made the right call on both SCs. I thought the first was wrong but it wasn't as evidenced by the huge lead Lewis built, even with the Perez thing. The second SC, if they stopped and FIA followed their own rules Max would have won. If they pitted and somehow the crash was cleared faster, then Lewis would have been out on new softs versus Max's relatively new hards and doing anything to prevent an pass.
can you explain this?
You have no idea how much I love this. After 2008 watching Massa’s heart break… so good.He's a troll.
I appreciate him more than that Eindoven dude though, at least this one isn't pretending to be serious
Also as a Schumacher fan.
5 times in a row la
And a PS. I'm guessing that rule (RD and SCs) was brought in for situations where the track is cleared but for safety, the RD can delay it a little (say another lap). Not the other way round
Name a race where not all were able?
What if you’re a sainz fan? Why didn’t he get the chance to challenge verstappen for a position? Why only some lapped cars moving aside?
Then he should have Red Flagged the race, let both men change tyres and sprint to the end.
Or, just let the cars stay unlapped. Max was on reds he would have taken them easily, and they were also obliged to move out of his way.
So many good options and he picks the most controversial one. What a tit.
No I appreciate it, and I love it turned out well for you!
It's the fake idiots who I don't have time for, you at least have a reason to gloat my dude
Lewis's fans, u can't make it up.. arguing a fact which I didn't even stated
I think constructor championship is real merit of that if u want to argue.
might not be sinister but it’s still not sport. the rules and past precendent would dictate the race finished under the safety car. shit way to end it but thems the rules. like the race starting and finishing under the safety car at spa. what actually happened was an ending that sold more tickets and brought in more ratings. that’s shit.
So you think Newey is wrong then?Lewis's fans, u can't make it up.. arguing a fact which I didn't even stated
I think constructor championship is real merit of that if u want to argue.
All lapped cars should Have been told to go around That in itself is the error but it doesn’t affect the race result regardless in this instance.
i’m no lewis fan, i’m just quoting adrian newey who said his red bull was the best car over the course of the season. to paraphrase some deranged half wit’s words, why would a poster on a football forum know more about f1 than a guy who designs the cars?Lewis's fans, u can't make it up.. arguing a fact which I didn't even stated
I think constructor championship is real merit of that if u want to argue.
Except it does. Because had that happened they wouldn’t have had time to bring the safety car in.
It does because they should have joined the back of the pack which would have meant that the race finished under the safety car.
It also does for the drivers who were stuck behind cars not allowed to unlap themselves...
Horner clearly asks him for a last lap shootout. Masi changes his plan, which people seem to be forgetting btw, and makes that happen. Horner repeats the same thing post match in his interviews.
Funny though how they get that last lap, but no RF and changes to the overlap rules. The agenda was there, to get the last lap going. That's the point, whether it's to benefit one team over another I doubt, but it was certainly to suit the tv/sponsors/moneymen.
It would have if he had followed the regulations. The safety car would have to stay out until the lap after all of the lapped cars got to the back of the pack. By that stage the race would have been over and Lewis would have won.
Agree. Red Bull were gambling left, right and centre hoping something would stick. They had to. Its all they had.
In the end, Michael Masi intervened to give them the win.
Exactly, you don't have to believe there was bias towards Max, but clearly the rules were bent to have more spectacle
Mercedes had the same opportunity to change tyres… At the end of the day, Lewis punished himself twice
he really is the worst.
Incorrect again
Could use a stickied post at this point
I'm just saying that best driver won the driver championship and best car won construtor championship. Everything else is personal opinion.
No not really. Anything they did would've benefitted Max in a way.
First instance, max gains track position if Lewis heads in to the pits. He stays out and Max gets fresh tyres to catch Lewis (which wasn't working so they made the right call here).
Second instance, Lewis heads into the pits, Max gets track position, and Max has fresher hards than Lewis did so might not have been able to overtake if the last lap happened. And we know the last situation that played out. Either way, safety car should've stayed out until the finish with this second instance.
You're a tad delusional
Mercedes couldn’t pit Lewis under the safety car because it would have given track position to Max and handed him the title if Masi followed the actual rules and the race had finished under a safety car. Also it wasn’t Lewis - it was the team - he was told not to pit. They were also completely right not to pit under the VSC as Lewis was matching Max’s pace even though he was on 26 lap newer tyres. It’s very simple stuff.
Verstappen beat Hamilton over a 22 race season despite having worse luck and a worse car.
That safety car was pure karma for Mercedes playing bowling with Verstappen during the summer.
Justice
The right man won
That safety car was pure karma for Mercedes playing bowling with Verstappen during the summer.
Justice
The right man won
Definitely only watched the last 4 races.