That's usually the case unfortunately.
There is literally zero racing right now and the FIA made a massive announcement and change regarding this only last week. Its also a massive talking point for the sport.
Barcelona was added as an extended shakedown period for the teams, behind closed doors, due to all the changes in the regulations and the need for further testing. There's no living timing either. The first 'official' test will be at Bahrain, and should have TV coverage.
Fair points but sweet FA to do with a mistake Hamilton didn't make. If we want to be fair we'd rely on the cars, team and driving and not a mistake brought about by undue influence.
Only one driver per team has driven so far, the other set of drivers will take over in the afternoon. Don't know why this is though, if the teams only have one car each or if they're doing it to limit the amount of cars on track.
come on guys...I think everybody is hoping to get a clue about which teams interpreted the new rules best.why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
It literally means nothingwhy people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
It's to reduce running costs during testing, and that there's an even playing field. (eg. teams with bigger budgets running two cars because they can afford to).
why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
I posted the times because @F-Red said there was no official timing being done. I think we all know it's fairly useless info but I thought it was at least a bit more interesting than the constant whine about Masi.why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
Got it, thanks.
Don't really get why other people seek to censor what others post on an open forum.
Oh no doubt, but we won't know this until first practice in Bahrain.
Keep up with him in the points obviously.
People tried to say the same about 1990, 1994 and 2008 but I don’t think Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton gave a damn.
No they didnt. You just made that up.
You’re presumably just ignorant of anything that happened in F1 before 2014.
You'll have to remind me why racing incidents as the first part of my comment that you haven't addressed are in any way compared to a decision made by a Race Director under duress from a team manager?
I can't help but feel you wanted to ignore this which may be why you selectively quoted my comment?
Because racing incidents that aren't governed correctly are the same as a racing incident that wasn't governed correctly...?
As my reply earlier in response to your earlier comment stated, the mistake was not the driver's (Hamilton), the mistake came from the Race Director and the undue influence brought upon by Horner.
Well it was not obvious to me.
All 3 were a failure of governance over incidents that happened in races that defined where the title ended up. So yeah, they are obviously comparable. Despite not being the same sort of incident.As my reply earlier in response to your earlier comment stated, the mistake was not the driver's (Hamilton), the mistake came from the Race Director and the undue influence brought upon by Horner.
Do we need to reach an agreement why Driving Incidents, cheating or mistakes have nothing in common with a Race Director making a decision that was incorrect regarding the re-start of a race?
Been watching f1 for 40 years sonny. Racing incidents happen that decide championships, they are controversial at the time but there has never been a f1 championship decided by a race director making up his own rules on the last lap of the last race of the season.
Obviously I can't help you from your dim view however let's just put this to rights. You began by blaming Hamilton for his poor driving and mistakes, my response was that losing the title in the last race was not a driving mistake from Hamilton, rather a mistake made out of his or his team's hands. I have to admit I find it extremely tiresome when a poster can't admit the most basic of errors made by themselves.
Nah, perhaps you just lack the mental agility to keep up with all that's being said in a thread like this.
51 years myself although I'll admit that the days we used to camp at Silverstone and sneak under the wire fence with my brother and cousins and then meet up with the paying grown ups was spent as a nine and ten year old begging goodies from stalls and teams doing PR.
#*I can't fathom why people who repeatedly say they are so bored of a discussion go to such extraordinary lengths to be part of it
Thank feck Masi is gone, it's the ultimate piece of evidence that everyone involved in F1 was on the same page about what happened in Abu Dhabi, not even RB tried to defend him in any meaningful way, cause, well, they know too. History will tell what 2021 is remembered for, but I have a feeling some will be very disappointed
| Driver | Team | Time | Tyres | Laps |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1) Lando Norris | McLaren | 1:19.951 | C4 (soft) | 87 |
| 2) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:20.165 | C3 (medium) | 80 |
| 3) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | 1:20.416 | C3 | 57 |
| 4) George Russell | Mercedes | 1:20.784 | C3 | 77 |
| 5) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:20.929 | C3 | 50 |
| 6) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 1:21.276 | C3 | 52 |
| 7) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 1:21.638 | C3 | 105 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 1:21.746 | C2 (hard) | 127 |
| 9) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:22.246 | C2 | 147 |
| 10) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 1:22.572 | C3 | 23 |
| 11) Alex Albon | Williams | 1:23.379 | C3 | 66 |
| 12) Mick Schumacher | Haas | 1:22.962 | C3 | 23 |
| 13) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 1:23.327 | C2 | 50 |
| 14) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 1:23.379 | C3 | 66 |
| 15) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 1:24.505 | C2 | 20 |
| 16) Robert Kubica | Alfa Romeo | 1:25.909 | C3 | 9 |
He didn't though, this is just flat out wrong and shifting the blame.
The only reason he won that race is because Perez did absolute work for him, and then when he lost that lead again his team made the strategy call to pit under the SC which if the race director adhered to the rules, would have lost them the race and been looked back on as a poor tactical decision by Red Bull but because the director fecked up, ended up working out beautifully for them.
I'm not a Verstappen fan. In fact, I've always tended to support Mclaren or Mclaren-Mercedes drivers in races. I'm not trying to downplay Masi's huge feckup this season. The only reason the final race was the be-all and end-all was that both were tied on points. I like you Z from your werewolf days but I'm not having a weird fetish of blame shifting etc, it's just how I see it. I''m frankly bored by the 'F1 is stacked against Hamilton' posters when the last gazillion races were won by him ffs. I'm sorry, we'll have to disagree on this but I just hope we just move the feck on from last season.
I think Hamilton got the title stolen from him but this is a fair summary.
while I agree with you and that last race is still very raw and yes it still makes me mad, but I am not dwelling on it, I am making hardly any comments about it, looking forward to the season.
You've completely shut me up with this. Let's roll on the new season shall we?OK "drive to survive".
We both know you did. You just have no response.
Thank you for your warm welcome.
YesYour post was longer
I was just hoping to take a 'banter' approach to see if it worked I think this is fair. It's a big part of the last season and will have lasting impact on this season. I'm all for discussing this or any other topic in general, but I find the spirit of the thread veering towards brake check, asterisk in the title yada yada yada.
