Yeah, pretty much how I see it, though I hope we can work Monaco's alleged interest in Rojo into any deal. The squad would be a bit bloated if we brought in or two more in without getting any out.
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Rojo out - Fabinho in would be great really. Nobody wants Rojo here and although they play different positions we have enough cover in Darmian and Blind for left back and Jones & Blind for CB.
Ideally Rojo & Jones out and Fabinho & Fonte in would make the squad a whole lot better looking but maybe Jones deserves one last chance with a manager who has a very good record with injuries.
Of course there is also the option of Darmian out and Fabinho in which would be grand too but I would prefer any option that gets Rojo out.
And as people have added Fabinho can play CDM too so could be developed as an option there.
Do we think that Fabinho would replace Valencia at Right Back then? I think Valencia's been playing well.
All of his 5 games for Monaco this season has been as CDM. Perhaps that is where Mourinho plans on using him if we buy him?
I think possibly but let form dictate in the long term. Valencia is on fire now and could have one of his seasons but when he dips he dips bad and its such an important position we need to have someone there on form.
Could be but having other options for RB and CDM is a good thing. I think getting him in and Rojo out makes good sense either way.
RB: Valencia, Fabinho (& Darmian)
CB: Bailly, Smalling, Blind, Jones(/Fonte)
LB: Shaw, Darmian
With also the option of Fabinho in midfield or, as I said, primarily in midfield and back up right back depending on how Jose sees him.
Yes, plus Fabinho can play DM so that might be in Jose's thinking (if we are really interested)
I'm happy with Valencia and Darmian at RB if we are signing another player it should be CB
In: Fabinho
Out: Darmian
RB: Valencia/Fabinho
LB: Shaw/Rojo
Out: Darmian
RB: Valencia/Fabinho
LB: Shaw/Rojo
I'd rather send Rojo away and put Darmian as a left side solution.
Most would, it seems, just not me.
Pogba and fabinho would be a very big, strong and quick pairing. Fellaini is a monster but sadly quick he aint.
We're not buying Fabinho, I don't know why people think we are
We definitely are, Present to Mendes, you didnt think wed go this full window without signing one of his clients.
Seems to be pointless signing unless he's verging on world class. We have numbers both at RB and in midfield.
We have lots of options for CM, but I think we're probably still lacking at CDM. The likes of Schneiderlin, Herrera, Pogba, Perreira would ideally play infront of a CDM.
The only options we have there are Carrick, Schweinsteiger and seemingly Fellaini from this seasons form. Schweinsteigers clearly not wanted, Carrick might just be edging over the hill and I'm not sure if anyone really believes Fellaini will be a long term option there.
If we get this guy could we not push Valencia into the RW position? He's playing well, crossing well, and crucially has the pace we are lacking on the right.
Then let Miki and Mata fight it out for the number 10 position, obviously Rooney complicates things, but nothing new there.
Then let Miki and Mata fight it out for the number 10 position, obviously Rooney complicates things, but nothing new there.
Exactly, people are getting carried away without even watching him. He doesn't get games at RB and isn't exactly tearing the league at DM.
I wouldn't want to move Valencia from a position he's thriving in, especially since Fabinho seems to be more of a DM currently than an RB.
Fair enough, but I always thought Fabinho would be bought for the RB position, and we are pretty stacked in midfield just now anyway.
I see no reason why Valencia wouldn't do just as well further up the pitch, it is his attacking that is impressing me more than his defending.
I think he's effective attacking on the overlap and with Mata drifting inside taking his marker with him it's creating 1v1 situations with plenty of space for him to exploit. I don't think he'd get that same luxury if he's playing at RW with Fabinho at RB as neither can Valencia cut inside effectively nor have I seen Fabinho be an effective overlapping RB in the few times I have seen him at that position.
My belief is that if we buy Fabinho we'll move Schneiderlin, but that's complete conjecture on my part so I could be very wrong.
So I take it he isn't really that good then?
Personally, I'm not interested at all and I'm not Valencia's biggest fan. I've been left unimpressed most times I've seen him.
People seem quite adamant that this is likely to happen. Haven't seen anything that sounds reliable tbh but maybe I've just missed something. Don't really see the need for him unless we're selling Darmian. If we are, he'd be okay as a backup but I personally wouldn't be happy if he replaced Valencia in the starting XI (not that I think he would). If they want Rojo they can get him without including Fabinho in the deal. The mention of him in the deal makes me even more convinced that this is likely bs. If we were selling Rojo I think he'd be gone by now. We'll probably just keep him as backup. The way I've read his situation Rojo seems to have already had his chance to leave and chose to stay (likely because of his wage). Not even convinced by the Fonte story tbh. I think our business is done unless a top player suddenly becomes available.
All this talk about buying him because he's also a DM.
We got schneiderlin, Fella and even Blind to cover this spot.
If nothing works out, we got Schweini.
No need for a new defensive midfielder.
Last time we got a player from Monaco it didn't turn out well.
We got schneiderlin, Fella and even Blind to cover this spot.
If nothing works out, we got Schweini.
No need for a new defensive midfielder.
Last time we got a player from Monaco it didn't turn out well.
Martial?
Don't know much about him, probably don't need him, but his name sounds good, I reckon we should get him
Fellaini isn't a true defensive midfielder, despite his two fairly impressive matches. I don't think Morgan Schneiderlin is good enough, and it looks like Blind will spend the season - and perhaps his whole career here - as a LCB/LB. Basti will hopefully never play here again.
Martial was the last player we got from Monaco.
Rhymes with Robinho. I vote no.
For the people who want Jones out, does the club not have to have a full contingent of english or homegrown players to worry about? They have let a lot of british/irish lads go the last few seasons and havent really brought any in except for Shaw.
Rooney, Shaw, Smalling, Rashford, Lingard are all enough.
I think?
I think?
Our first siginng was Mendes client
And our last fullback from monaco
I don't think United are interested in this guy at all
Our last signing from Monaco was Martial, I take it that the player who didn't so well was el tigre Radamel Falcao?
Only players over 21 at the start of the season count towards the home grown quota. Rooney, lingard, carrick, shaw, smalling , Jones, young, johnstone and schneiderlin for having been in England for over 3 years prior to his 21st birthday.
That's a legitimate concern, especially with carrick, Rooney and young all over 30 and johnstone not being guaranteed to stay long term.
Schneiderlins part of the home grown contingent though so it's worth keeping him.
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I would be surprised to sign either at this point
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