fallengt
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Did Italian league make him look good or something
What really cost you a goal was how ridiculously easily Brentford's forward could shoot.I don't right give a f**k if this guy was prime Buffon in his Inter days or not, the fact is he's a liability now and is costing us goals and games. He needs to be dropped.
If he has the character necessary to be a Manchester United goalkeeper, he'll use it as motivation to work on his game, improve and win his place back.
If he goes off in a sulk, we'll know he wasn't right for the job in the first place.
Even taking that into account, he's still on the bottom half of the table based on PSxG. Keepers like Areola, Neto, Sa and Leno also face many shots and are showing much more than him.What really cost you a goal was how ridiculously easily Brentford's forward could shoot.
Onana let it in so easily, but your table ranking is not inconsistent with the ability of your defence.
Drop Onana, and the next keeper will struggle just as much.
Third match was the error. He was MOTM in his second match, the 1-1 vs Wimbledon. His fourth match was the 0-5 massacre at Chelsea in which Butt was sent off early, Berg had an own goal, and I think Taibi had an error that led to a goal.Motm in his first game. One shocking error in his next and that was it. Onana has a full collection of shockers
The defence is only one factor. The other, fairly significant, factor is that Onana let's quite a few weak shots beat him.He is a good keeper who also had a dodgy start for Inter too, last year, but then came out well.
You just need a better defence.
Then again, it's up to you ... blame the keeper, and the next keeper after that, and the next keeper again, and so forth ....
Or do something to fix that defence.
And give us Onana back, you can get Sommer for free if you just give us our keeper back.
You'll be complaining even more if Sommer was your #1, he has been really bad for us.
Couldn't have been watching united for too long then.Definitely the worst #1 I’ve seen for United. Probably one of the worst starting keepers in the league.
Admittedly I hadn’t watched much of him before his move and had heard about his poor shot stopping, but what’s going on here? Wasn’t he supposed to be a commanding presence? Wasn’t he supposed to be good with the ball at his feet? Wasn’t he supposed to be able to play high as a sweeper keeper?
He’s rooted to his line most of the game and terrible with the ball at his feet. Every cross or shot has the potential of ending up in the net…He makes de Gea look like a modern goalkeeper by comparison.
No. People just willfully chose to ignore his howlers because they were so enamored with the Cruyff turns in his own box.Did Italian league make him look good or something
Worst I’ve seen and Ove been watching since the early 2000s. As bad as Taino and Howard were they seemed worse because we compare them to VDS and Schmeichel. Onana has yet to make a genuine save in the corner.Couldn't have been watching united for too long then.
He was making these same mistakes in the Serie A, was also less exposed at Inter.Did Italian league make him look good or something
Did he have a connection? Genuinely, of all the things to highlight about De Gea, him having a good understanding with his defence certainly isn't one of them for me.Hes been rubbish and I don't see the connection between him and the defence that De Gea had.
Personally I'd be begging Dave to rejoin and swallow whatever pride I had left but we also have to remember it's early days, the club is a mess and even De Gea himself started poorly before reaching legendary status.
Ultimately it's better for United of Onana steps it up.
It's a bit of both really. He's had a lot of blame for the amount of goals conceded when a lot of them have been caused by terrible defending.He is a good keeper who also had a dodgy start for Inter too, last year, but then came out well.
You just need a better defence.
Then again, it's up to you ... blame the keeper, and the next keeper after that, and the next keeper again, and so forth ....
Or do something to fix that defence.
And give us Onana back, you can get Sommer for free if you just give us our keeper back.
You'll be complaining even more if Sommer was your #1, he has been really bad for us.
I think so. On a personal level at least but I always felt the defence knew he was there to save their bacon.Did he have a connection? Genuinely, of all the things to highlight about De Gea, him having a good understanding with his defence certainly isn't one of them for me.
Maybe in that regard! I can agree with that. I just felt a never ending nervousness with him and our defence. Not that its exactly improved right now, but it is very early days.I think so. On a personal level at least but I always felt the defence knew he was there to save their bacon.
Yeh, it wasn't one of those telepathic type connections where they instinctively knew each others next move but more one built on years of earning trust.Maybe in that regard! I can agree with that. I just felt a never ending nervousness with him and our defence. Not that its exactly improved right now, but it is very early days.
Onana desperately needs a run of clean sheets, but at the moment that only looks possible if we face no shots.
You rarely here from these people nowadays such is their shame.Still early days. I remember people writing off Carroll, Foster and Kuszczak and Howard back in the day.
Get away with you and your factsThird match was the error. He was MOTM in his second match, the 1-1 vs Wimbledon. His fourth match was the 0-5 massacre at Chelsea in which Butt was sent off early, Berg had an own goal, and I think Taibi had an error that led to a goal.
He also wasn't totally frozen out, he was selected in the subs list for few league matches and the ICC match thereafter and SAF wasn't ready to axe him from the club according to Taibi - he had family issues in Italy and elected to return. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/massimo-taibi-man-utd-ferguson-26209913
The more DDG getting mentioned for any kind of comparison, the worse it made the current situation with Onana look. DDG came in to replace VdS who became a great player/goalkeeper for us. Big gloves to fill. DDG was very young especially for a GK. Arguably DDG never eliminated his weaknesses from early days. Weak physically, especially during set piece. Passing weak. Not commanding the penalty box...We just masked his weakness, where his superhuman saves still made opposition depressed trying to score past him. Also remember DDG came to a champion team who can afford him time to develop, and he's not expected to fully replace VdS during the early days.We have been fleeced. Ok to be fair, not having the entire first choice back four out is not easy. DDG sucked at the start too
oh give me a break - he must be expected save something. He has cost us so many goals this season, it's ridiculous. Has it occured to you that one of the main reasons we are struggling is because of him ? The defenders do NOT trust him - and why should they ?What really cost you a goal was how ridiculously easily Brentford's forward could shoot.
Onana let it in so easily, but your table ranking is not inconsistent with the ability of your defence.
Drop Onana, and the next keeper will struggle just as much.
The whole team is lacking in confidence, it’s obvious. Nervous, shaky, overthinking and at times terrified. I do think it will pass, but it may well be a gradual thing…unfortunately.Why can’t he save even basic shots now? Not only does De Gea save that today, Onana last season does too.
Confidence is through the floor, but I have to say he seemed a bit tougher than that.