United haven't been in this exact situation, but I don't think many would have been celebrating us not qualifying for the CL because it meant Liverpool couldn't win the league.
I didn't twist anything. I just looked at their most recent five results and saw they hadn't won. They've also only won three of their last 10 league games. It's hardly been a stellar run-in.
Maybe I misinterpreted your post, but as I said when you initially quoted me, there are Spurs fans making out it'd have taken some sort of miracle for you to overtake Villa even with a win against City, which simply isn't true, and makes the active celebration of City's goals even more baffling. Ultimately, you're saying one thing in regards to the "buffoons" not supporting the team in the stadium, but then coming across as quite defensive when it's pointed out how small-time and weird the behaviour of those same "buffoons" was. Similarly, you're saying you don't need to deflect from the disappointing end to your season, but at full-time last night and all of this morning, basically all you've done is deflect and bring up how fans of other clubs have responded to different situations involving their rivals, which is very much deflecting.
I'm just not sure how their results against Olympiakos really matter in the context of the league? They've lost just once in the last 5 games in the league. They've gotten 4 results in the last 5 league games that would have guaranteed them CL regardless of what we did. Or 7 in the last 10. Our run in has been even more shit. Hence why we've fallen further and further behind.
You're likely misrepresenting because you cant believe someone would actually be sincere in a discussion on the internet. I genuinely and truly believe Villa deserve the CL spot. They have been better than us over the season, especially taking into account their deep European run. Obviously I would have preferred us to be in their position instead but if we can't be, Villa are up there in terms of clubs I don't mind doing so. Not everything needs an ulterior motive.
How am I deflecting? I am answering specific points people have made about the celebrations or what Spurs fans have said with points about how other fans have reacted in the circumstances?
When I've been talking about the actual performance or the actual season performances, both yesterday and today, Ive said multiple times that our performances from November onwards have been mostly poor, as have the results and that Ange will be under pressure if he continues in the same way next season? Its also not being said that those buffoons are small time, its being used as part of the normal gamut of 'banterous' points about how small time the club and its fans are, when the fans of Man Utd have been cheering on their supposed City rivals almost nonstop over the past 4 years?
All of the following can be true:
-During the game I wanted us to win but I ultimately knew I would not be unhappy with either outcome
-Lots of fans, in similar situations, would likely feel the same. Especially when that sworn rival hasn't won a big trophy for 2 decades, when they still remind you of the time they won it at your stadium 2 decades ago
-The players and manager played as normal, actually played a reasonable game but were beaten by the better team
-Ange and the team have, whisper this, actually been quite shit since November/ December. Like really shit. Losing 4 in a row. Some awful performances. Winning one away game in 2024. Conceding shitloads despite having good defenders. That isn't a fans issue.
-Any fan who boos or does anything other than support the team while physically in the stadium, is a tool.
-Some idiotic fans does not make an entire fanbase or club smalltime, unless Man Utd and Arsenal have also become smalltime.
