Gabriel Djemba-Bebe
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The irony of him standing inside Spurs' new state-of-the-art stadium claiming that the Glazers have more ambition than Levy.Tweet
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The irony of him standing inside Spurs' new state-of-the-art stadium claiming that the Glazers have more ambition than Levy.Tweet
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If any side has it in them to lose to Sheffield United, it's Spurs (or United).Unfortunately Sheffield United are really really bad.
You're focusing too much on me literally just picking their most recent games, or indeed, the number of losses. The point I made was that I'd seen it said that a "miracle" was needed for Spurs to qualify for the CL even if they'd beaten City. That "miracle" would have consisted of Spurs beating "record goals conceded" Sheffield United and Villa, who haven't been in great form, losing to a very in-form Crystal Palace away from home. That's not exactly a mad scenario. Spurs' form should have been almost irrelevant in the context of Sheffield United being unbelievably shit.I'm just not sure how their results against Olympiakos really matter in the context of the league? They've lost just once in the last 5 games in the league. They've gotten 4 results in the last 5 league games that would have guaranteed them CL regardless of what we did. Or 7 in the last 10. Our run in has been even more shit. Hence why we've fallen further and further behind.
You're likely misrepresenting because you cant believe someone would actually be sincere in a discussion on the internet. I genuinely and truly believe Villa deserve the CL spot. They have been better than us over the season, especially taking into account their deep European run. Obviously I would have preferred us to be in their position instead but if we can't be, Villa are up there in terms of clubs I don't mind doing so. Not everything needs an ulterior motive.
How am I deflecting? I am answering specific points people have made about the celebrations or what Spurs fans have said with points about how other fans have reacted in the circumstances?
When I've been talking about the actual performance or the actual season performances, both yesterday and today, Ive said multiple times that our performances from November onwards have been mostly poor, as have the results and that Ange will be under pressure if he continues in the same way next season? Its also not being said that those buffoons are small time, its being used as part of the normal gamut of 'banterous' points about how small time the club and its fans are, when the fans of Man Utd have been cheering on their supposed City rivals almost nonstop over the past 4 years?
All of the following can be true:
-During the game I wanted us to win but I ultimately knew I would not be unhappy with either outcome
-Lots of fans, in similar situations, would likely feel the same. Especially when that sworn rival hasn't won a big trophy for 2 decades, when they still remind you of the time they won it at your stadium 2 decades ago
-The players and manager played as normal, actually played a reasonable game but were beaten by the better team
-Ange and the team have, whisper this, actually been quite shit since November/ December. Like really shit. Losing 4 in a row. Some awful performances. Winning one away game in 2024. Conceding shitloads despite having good defenders. That isn't a fans issue.
-Any fan who boos or does anything other than support the team while physically in the stadium, is a tool.
-Some idiotic fans does not make an entire fanbase or club smalltime, unless Man Utd and Arsenal have also become smalltime.
Villa would only need a draw. Being winless changes nothing. They've only lost once to a team from the bottom half this entire season (Nottingham a while ago).Saw a Spurs fan elsewhere saying they'd "need a miracle to qualify for the CL" even if they'd beaten City, as if a win wouldn't have put them within two points of Villa, with their last game being against Sheffield United, while Villa, winless in their last five matches, are away to an in form Crystal Palace.
The point is not that Villa only need a draw. The point is that Villa losing away to Palace, given the form of both teams, is not a particularly unlikely result, and is therefore not remotely close to needing a "miracle".Villa would only need a draw. Being winless changes nothing. They've only lost once to a team from the bottom half this entire season (Nottingham a while ago).
Of course, they've recently lost games to Lille and Olympiacos, but that's a different context. At least Lille is a team of Premier League top-half level, while Olympiacos as a club has more recent European experience than Villa.
To be fair to Villa they will finish the season with 68,69, or 71 points and over the last 5/6 years, you tend to make CL with this many points.
He’s 100% correct as the manager to voice this.This is what happens when your main rival is challenging for the title against a team that nobody really cares about. You cheer on the team that nobody really cares about. We have been okay to lose to City in seasons Liverpool have been challenging. I don't see a problem with Spurs fans doing the same. Ange is a colourful guy, but he'd do well not to pick a fight with the fanbase. He's had a decent season.
"Decent" is about it though, which I think might be his problem. They got off to a flyer, and looked on course to have an excellent season. They're very likely to finish 5th, but as it stands, they could still finish 7th, and even if they win their last game, their only wins in their last 11 (of which they've lost five) will have been against teams in the bottom four. Not that it was actually on the cards, but win last night and they go into the last game with at least a reasonable chance of qualifying for the CL. Not only did they not win, but their fans were actively celebrating them losing as the goals flew in, and some of their players were laughing and joking, despite the result effectively ending their season prematurely.This is what happens when your main rival is challenging for the title against a team that nobody really cares about. You cheer on the team that nobody really cares about. We have been okay to lose to City in seasons Liverpool have been challenging. I don't see a problem with Spurs fans doing the same. Ange is a colourful guy, but he'd do well not to pick a fight with the fanbase. He's had a decent season.
Wow. The Glazers have negative ambition.The irony of him standing inside Spurs' new state-of-the-art stadium claiming that the Glazers have more ambition than Levy.Tweet
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You've definitely had a concussion. 1 fan going on aftv and claiming this for clicks is not the same as the majority of your fan at the stadium celebrating your team losing out on Champions league football. Forget about me being an Arsenal fan, yesterday was one of the most bizarre things I've seen in football.Also did I get a concussion or am I mistaken in remembering Arsenal fans saying they'd be happy to lose the EL final (against Chelsea no less) if Spurs lost the CL final. Ie a chance for an actual trophy, as opposed to a theoretical chance of the 'top 4 trophy'?
Would you say that situation is more or less 'spursy' than spending almost the entire season top and still not winning the league?