What in the name of feck is a suicide pass ?
Well, 7M is the rumored figure, not confirmed. Its still good business if true. Top clubs don't have much leverage when they get rid of older non elite players. Show me another average midfielder north of 30 in the PL who left one of the top 6 for huge sums. Fabregas is 31 and obviously a much better player and essentially joined Monaco for free (Chelsea will be paid bonuses based on his performances in France!). 26 year old Jack Wilshere joined West Ham for free and 25 year old Emre Can joined Juventus for free as well. Joe Hart is not a midfielder but joined Burnley for peanuts (3.5M).
Well you're both wrong then, as is anybody else that screamed 'hospital pass' at their tv or laptop.
A pass that puts your team in direct danger of conceding, like a CB playing a pass across his own box to the other CB when the opposition striker is within range of them to potentially intercept it, it's a self harming pass hence suicide pass.
And yet when he was match fit(always important, because it's stupid selecting somebody that isn't)he was the 2nd used substitute in Ole's first match in charge.
Personally, I never thought he should ever play in the midfield. For me, he's a striker and that's the only place I would play him. As a target man with his back to goal, or getting onto the end of a cross...he's a horrible midfielder IMO
Wilshire and Can were at the end of their contracts but I get your point
Yeah both of us are wrong sure
Never heard it in football before, but have in Cricket when a batsman tries to steal an extra run when there is no chance he will get it unless the fielder has a brainfart
I really don't think it means much do you? He came on in the 87th minute in that game
Wrong, or idiots, i'll leave that up to you to decide.
He was the only player on the bench Ole trusted to put on as a defensive shield as we were hanging on for dear life at the time
He was the only player on the bench Ole trusted to put on as a defensive shield as we were hanging on for dear life at the time
We've always known hospital pass as meaning a pass that results in the receiver being clattered.
Exactly. Our depth in midfield is non-existent.
So you think Fellaini adds to strength in depth?
Mousa dembele for 11m to Guangzhou. But I think his contract was running out.
Not much of a difference is it? The pickings are slim
I'm not going to go back and forth here and pretending an unfashionable and frequently fan-maligned (oddly never heard a manager say a bad thing about him) footballer that keeps making his way into Belgium's 'golden generation' squad does not add any value. Even if we're looking at United alone he's shown to be a more useful and different dimension to the other benchwarmers in question. It's one thing if we are about to go and sign another midfielder this January that's premier league capable. But we're not. And it's an even bigger farce if we're getting a measly 7mil. So @el3mel 's point is spot on.
He only adds value if you play to his strengths. Mourinho did that, hence he was a match winner at times for him. I believed at the time that we were right to sign him back up in the summer if Mourinho saw him as a viable alternative. I don't think Ole's style of football calls for a player like Fellaini so i don't think he can be considered squad depth if all ole will do is a few token run outs in games well won.
I just think Ole doesn't have a role for him. Even after yesterday's match, he mentioned that he wanted the team to play faster. Better to give his minutes to someone else. I think he's right to try out the kids. At this point I feel like Pereira played himself out of the side. Time to move onto another youngster.
Could have used him last night that’s for sure.
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Oh the golden generation that's impressing. I wonder what they won.
I don't like using him as a crutch. It just turns our tactics into hoofball. United need to move away from that. Every top team doesn't have someone like Fellaini and they get on just fine.
We came back from two goals down anyway. Playing better football than we would have done with Fellaini.
Lets not act like Fellaini has never made a cock up that cost us a goal. He might have played better than Perreria last night, he might have played worse.
To be fair one of the main reasons used to defend Fellaini on here the last few years has been that the manager selects and trusts him over others. Well the current manager doesn't select or trust him over the likes of even Perreria.
Don't Chinese clubs also have to pay 100% tax on foreign player purchases?
Been thinking about you(which is disturbing for both of us
I wouldn't be counting my chickens just yet mate, if I was a betting man, and luckily for bookies world-wide i'm not i'd say there is more chance of United re-signing Wayne Rooney, and playing him at left-back against PSG than Fellaini going to China this window.
I think it's more lucky for you that you don't bet on things like that mate.We get a little bit more than 10 million.
On that moment Benteke was 23 years old.
