Well he's a player with a rubbish first touch and dodgy passing.
If you're going to act like an asshole, at least make your post easy on the eyes. Looks like a 12 year old wrote it
Yes god forbid looking at actual stats when trying to assess a player. Rambling and slightly rude posts like yours are far more intellectual.
No you're right, you know far more than people within the sport and ETH himself. Maybe try watching Fred and the likes of Caicedo then show me the "stats" that show how many times he carries the ball out of tight spaces under a press and how progressive he is in. Orr you could try actually watching football. Same thinking that got people on here saying Lukaku was a world class striker because of his stats in Serie A, despite the fact if you actually watched him you'd see the ball bounce off him 9 times out of 10. Same thing applies to Fred.
Go back a few seasons and you'll see he progressed the ball better and more often than Caicedo. You're genuinely clueless.
I've never said I know more than Eric Ten Hag, I've said Fred is a good football player. Ten Hag might agree even if he isn't the player Ten Hag feels he needs currently.
Stats don't tell the whole story. Fred, (along with Maguire, Mctominay et al) represents an era that is best forgotten by Man Utd fans.
No they don't, but if he's statistically done a lot of really good things very consistently that would probably indicate he's not "rubbish" or whatever other words have been used to describe him here.
It's not a weird assumption. I'm a season ticket holder, i've seen him and i watch all of brighton's games. The two players are not comparable at all. And you seem to have a problem comprehending. I didn't say the ball bounces off him, I used Lukaku as an example of someone who's stats mislead people into thinking he's a quality striker, and the same applies to Fred. Again, your opinion is pretty invalid since the entity of the football world don't want to sign him for such a cheap fee Yet you think he commands a higher price. Therefore you think you know better. You dont. No one wants him because actual football managers know there's no place for him in any decent side that wants to play progressive football.
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I think the fact that he's 30, is on a high wage and has unfairly developed this reputation as a failed "meme" player is the reason why.
You're a season ticket holder but somehow you watch all of Brighton's games
I’m all for criticising the club, as it deserves it generally but some of you are the most miserable specimens in football.
Robin van Persie went to the same club at 31. You don't think he could do a job at a mid-table PL club? Was Turkey his level, and should it tell us something that only Fenerbahce wanted him?
The fact that no one wanted to sign him at 31 would point to the fact, not internet opinion, that either A) no other premier league team thought he could or b) he didn’t want to play for the teams that would have been interested, which certainly wouldn’t have been United level.
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So you're the guy, often seen running around the Stretford end, phone in hand, asking if anyone has a stream for the Brighton game.
Do you think he was good enough for us?
The issue with Fred is that when he gets it wrong he tends to get it very very badly wrong, so it stands out so much more than most players. He then also draws attention to it further by his patented hands-up apology, compared to other players who'll just turn around and move on as if it never happened.
Yes as a squad option, I would have been happy to keep him.
What you say make absolutely no sense. He scored 10 goals in his last PL season for us (around 2000 minutes), yet somehow no PL team think one of the finest PL strikers could play for them. He wasn't interested in playing in Premier League, but wanted to play for Fenerbahce in the Turkish league? Why?
Why is it that posters like you are unable to grasp that I'm not comparing their abilities, but their cases. They were both 30. They were both United players. They were both on high wages. That's why PL teams don't go for them. Van Persie was sold for £4.7m. He must be shit then, right?First paragraph is irrelevant drivel as RvP going to Turkey under a completely different set of circumstances to Fred isn’t relevant here. You’re getting mad, as is usual on here, about something no one has said.Maybe because you're wrong. Maybe because PL teams don't want to sign aging players with high wages, even if they're good enough for their team. Have you ever thought about that? That teams plan strategically and for the future? Or is that concept a bit too challenging for you to grasp?
You're debating like a child. Oh, yeah, speaking of van Persie and Fred in the same sentence should be a bannable offence.
He's the second best striker in the world mate.
He’s over 30 years old mate. Context matters mate.
There weren't, let's be honest.
If you're going to go by opinion by its definition, then no, your subjective claim that Fred is shit can't be proven right or wrong.
Someone says Fred is a good player.
That isn’t exactly what was said though.
It's embarrassing. Imagine hating a player for not being a great midfielder, despite being one of the hardest workers in the team, never complaining and always ready to give his best. They genuinely get angry just by reading his name, and flip out when someone suggests he's had decent periods for us. Trash supporters.
You're so wound up by this, it's astounding!
