I see. I don't have that around here. They are pretty consistent.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Glad to have cleared that up for you.
It's not like Barca need the money, right?
Normally when a Glazer gets namedropped in the tweet the transfer ends up happening. I mean, if they stump up the 17m tomorrow? Everyone thinks theyve done a great thing and changed their minds.
More confident than ever of this now to be honest.
More confident than ever of this now to be honest.
Send them Maguire while its still time
Which kinda tells me that they're not majorly interested, or they're trying to knock a few quid off knowing their spending is getting a bit overboard.
I’m not saying this is the case, but if FDJ has said that he will only leave to play at Chelsea, then that gives Chelsea negotiating power.
It doesn’t matter if we offer £200million if he refuses to sign for us. It gives Chelsea leverage and pushes Barcelona into accepting a lower fee, but doesn’t get over the fact they owe FDJ a lot of money and he is refusing to leave without it.
I will admit. This will be painful.
What are the odds Ten Hag walks out if we don't get Frenkie?
That's a good point. Wasn't it the same with Sancho and it being reported that Joel Glazer had personally authorised/sealed the deal?
Nooooo… I swear I was on 1500 when it happened… someone edited their post and push me out…
I can see Chelsea or United being reluctant from a moral standpoint. But when all is said and done, only a fool would durably refuse to pay 17 extra millions for an asset that they highly value. For all intent and purposes that only increases the cost of De Jong by around 3.5 per year over the projected length of his contract, that's below 0.5% of our annual revenues for arguably our best asset.
Yes, you should say no at first but in the end you pay it if you truly believe in the player.
My guess is the only way it could feasibly be done is as part of some signing on fee and bonus package. i.e. if you sign this x year contract it'll work out as you gaining that €17m anyway by the time it's finished. €17m directly to the player up front however that's owed by another club would surely break all sorts of rules.
Problem is 99% of the players we sign lose a lot of value over the years.
Not even Lukaku lost that much value while completely struggling for us
Fully agree.
I don't even know that someone would have any moral issues with it.
What's so immoral about that?
Legal is a different standpoint. If they manage to get the legal stuff out of the way, i expect it to happen precisely like that.
If ETH truly believes that he needs a player like FDJ in his system (and there seem to be no other available players with this specific skill set), the club need to just do whatever it takes to secure his transfer. Pay Frenkie, pay Barca and cover whatever costs necessary. but just get it done.
interesting and It kinds of represents a moment……if chelsea wins this, it’s more than just football
Right now Murtough is flying to Turin apparently to sort out personal terms with Rabiot. Apparently there’s a big difference in negotiations. We can’t even sign an alternative!
Which is irrelevant. You don't sign an expensive player with the primary mindset that it's going to fail. If you do you may as well not sign the player and never sign anyone.
Chelsea fans are probably in stitches reading through this thread. 1506 pages.
Club have properly embarrassed us here. Glad I don't personally know any Chelsea fans.
Club have properly embarrassed us here. Glad I don't personally know any Chelsea fans.
Only if you believe this can happen, I don't.
I don't quite buy the 17m number as well. We know wages in Spain are reported after tax, yet this whole wage deferred issue seems to be talked about as gross figures? It seems a bit contradictory.
It's the Barcelona side of thing that is wrong, they owe a player money and are trying to use everything to force other clubs to pay or for the player to forfeit is money. Many people will object to it and strongly believe that they shouldn't help Barcelona act like cnuts.
Plus it would be stupid and keep us in this mess where every transfer has a United Tax applied. In hindsight we should have given Barca an earlier real deadline and moved on to others now. Whilst FdJ would be great there are lesser talented midfielders out there that would still greatly improve us. Just time is running out and points already dropped.
You've ruined it. It's off now.
I guess if one doesn’t read or watch anything today then that would be a true statement.
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Why? Nothing really happened so far, did it?
Barca really don't care it seems. They want him out and will do whatever it takes to get him out. Seems like Frenkie is holding strong though, but there's surely only so much he can take
I think De Jong will be transferred out. I also think Chelsea wont land him there's too much noise around Fofana for this to make sense.
I'd suspect someone else makes a surprise bid (i'm surprised Paris hasnt). I think (i hope) E10H has the intelligence to assess when to pursue a player.
So i'd argue, he knows there's willingness from the player to join us. Everything else i think is clickbait crap.
CHOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Would signal a massive change in his stance and negotiation position with Barcelona.
Also I'm sure it would please him no end that having had to deal with this dragging on because of Barcelona pissing about that Chelsea are gonna drag it out too... Leave a club with too many midfielders that don't value you to join a team with too many midfielders that don't value you
Honestly I think 99% of the stories coming out are complete guesswork.
Chelsea mudded
Outside of paying him, so far from everything.
Didn't they offer him... 3m? 7m? Either way, we wouldn't be on the hook for the entire amount.
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