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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Maybe also pay attention to what a Barca tier 1 just said on this saga
The same as your original point, "missing out on Bergwijn and Sulemana". Nothing.
My point was simple, and that is, ten Hag will get on with his work and won't spit his dummy out if he doesn't get his primary target(s). I think we'll get de Jong, but if we don't, then I'm sure alternatives will be brought in.
In the past we missed out on many players and had to settle for second best and the second best went on to be legends at the club.
Thank god for that …I was getting worried nobody knew what was happening
I don't quite follow the news, but FDJ has to find a solution for the money that Barca owe him for deferral payment, and also the difference in wages for his new Man Utd contract, on top of two clubs need to agree a transfer fee, right? oh man, it is a very complicated transfer deal. FDJ is within his own right to stick to his contract and stay if Barca is unwilling to compensate him.
Lots of Frenkensense has been posted today. I think this deal is inching closer to a conclusion. Excited. Muchly.
What did the journo say?
Just finished work... any news? Where we at now?
Chelsea in the mud
Monitoring the situation
I too have went through newbie purgatory. Posts like this made me stay there.
On, off, on, maybe, maybe not
No one really knows.
Barca are a set of crooks
Chelsea to hijack but maybe not.
Rinse and. Repeat.
I think that covers it
De Jong wants to go to Chelsea
Chelsea want him but only want to offer £15.99 plus 2 old defenders
De Jong actually prefers united to chelsea
But he wants to stay at Barca more than moving to either
De Jong and his agent actually hate Barca now.
I think that’s everything for today
Something about a woman named Chelsea at a Bar-alona and there was something about de Jong and 69 (unsure what it means to be honest) mixed with Di Maria vibes and financial ruin. Make of that what you will… I’ll grab my coat.
That's a propper update that. Spam the absolute shit out of everything.
This reinforces my view that basically nobody, aside from those actually involved, has knowledge of exactly where this deal is at right now. There are certainly some things I feel confident about (United obviously very interested and Laporta is obviously more willing to sell than he lets on) but beyond that I think it's best to wait until the reliable journalists' reports start corroborating before swaying too far one way or the other on this one. At the moment there's so many contradictory reports being put out on an almost daily basis that not all of it could possibly be completely accurate.
Who talked about bringing in shit players?! We were talking about a Plan B. And I don't know if you realized, that the midfield situation is even more dire than last season because we lost a few players there. Which brings us into cosy comfort of lacking in quality AND in quantity.
I think, this sort of thinking has the potential to be our downfall - "only this and that player can improve us, we have to stick to our targets". Bayern, Liverpool and City stepped away form being name-focussed, they switched to defining roles within their setup and selecting players with the right skill set. If a player like FDJ is as essential for ETHs plan for us then there is nothing as important as making contact with alternatives right now. We're simply not allowed to be smug and turn away from players we feel are below our level - our level is dire, we aren't good at defending, we aren't good at creating chances, we weren't even particularly good in converting them.
If this transfer is complicated, make it easy: tell Barca we have to start season preparations because the league is going to start in 3 weeks. We can't just wait with implementing a certain system as long as the instruments aren't there. Who are we expecting to play FDJs role in the training games? McTominay?? Just go set a deadline and go for alternatives, Barca needs our money probably more than we need this player. FFS it is three weeks, the season start isn't as easy as last year where the first few weeks made it possible to implement new ideas on the training field. Liverpool is on the third day I think, most of the clubs I consider our actual competitor shortly after. Our players have to work TOGETHER as soon as possible, we can't just wait until the end of the window just for some fecking coincidence to render all our planning as useless as we won't get our player. (and that doesn't even incorporate the thoughts if a system with FDJ as only 6 is theoretically or practically possible which might require even more recruiting business).
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I mean, he helped the club in their hour of need by accepting a wage deferral so that he earned just 57 odd grand a week in 2020-21 and 114 grand for 2021-22.
The cheeky horrible feckers now have no intention of going through with their side of the bargain.
No shit the relationship is broken, Barça are trying to absolutely shaft the bloke.
Nah he wants us over Chelsea. Not sure money is first either.
Good shit. Now get it done.
The deeper barca damage their relationship the better for us.
20 pages of absolute white noise for my train trip into work. 
The best summary of those 20 pages is that this entire saga has been held up because barca are refusing to pay him and are either trying to structure addons as a payment or upfront telling MUFC/frenkie to discuss a pay out for what is owed.
This entire saga is barca's fault and folks on here would rather panic about chelsea or blame Murtough for "not moving on" when this guy is ETH's entire window.
The best summary of those 20 pages is that this entire saga has been held up because barca are refusing to pay him and are either trying to structure addons as a payment or upfront telling MUFC/frenkie to discuss a pay out for what is owed.This entire saga is barca's fault and folks on here would rather panic about chelsea or blame Murtough for "not moving on" when this guy is ETH's entire window.
ETH wants him, if Frenkie leaves he'd rather work with ETH again, Barca are suggesting WE pay Frenkie what barca owe him and somehow people on here want to just push the narrative that we are somehow the mugs in this deal. 
All we've done is agree a deal for our new managers "must have above all else" target. Everything else is games and tedium forced on us by Barca.
All we've done is agree a deal for our new managers "must have above all else" target. Everything else is games and tedium forced on us by Barca.
@mazhar13 apologies to tag you with these questions which I'm sure you receive irritatingly frequently but do you have a good idea of how reliable this dude is?
I know that, in spite of being an absolute rag, the Mail have some quite reliable journalists reporting for them (e.g. Sami Mokbel, Adrian Kajumba, Mike Keegan and Chris Wheeler) but I've not yet been able to get a grasp of how trustworthy Simon Jones may or may not be.
We won't get bellingham that would rely on us being a better team, which with mcfred as our midfield we aren't.
Tielemans and anyone from mcFred is just as bad as mcFred, will get mullered in midfield by any team above 9th
If we save our money then fans cannot expect him to get above 10th, with a decimated squad, and no striker, then you would have to reduce your expectations to a midtable side.
Where have all the bottlejobs from earlier gone?
He prefers Chelsea, joke of a club
etc etc Back on Bluemoon or RAWK probably.Where have all the bottlejobs from earlier gone?
He prefers Chelsea, joke of a club
They'll be in hiding waiting for the next negative tweet to be posted from a shite Spanish websiteWhere have all the bottlejobs from earlier gone?
He prefers Chelsea, joke of a club
Absolutely no one:
Pearl Jam: I’m off to London to do 7 shows following Pearl Jam.
Absolutely no one:
true. The thread sure does move faster with negative news for some reason.
This is giving me Pearl Jam vibes.
I fecking hate Pearl Jam
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