Further signings dependent on sales?

[captain666]

Whatever happens we need to start the exit door revolving rapidly in next few weeks!

 

[bosskeano]

this would be a great starting point with shipping out Pereira.....but United want 25m for him and once again it seems like another club just wanting a loan deal

https://turkish-football.com/fenerbahce-make-offer-for-man-united-midfielder-andreas-pereira/

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I see this is going as well as usual.

Absolutely nobody looks even remotely close to leaving permanently. Lingard looks like staying, Pogba looks like staying, even Dalot looks like he's staying.

May heat up a bit after the final pre-season match, but definitely feels like nothing much is going to happen now until the last week or 2.

 

[Lelouch geass]

10 days for league to start. I dont think we will sign anyone sadly. But I think loans and sell will happen. Matic will be gone.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

I see this is going as well as usual.

Absolutely nobody looks even remotely close to leaving permanently. Lingard looks like staying, Pogba looks like staying, even Dalot looks like he's staying.

May heat up a bit after the final pre-season match, but definitely feels like nothing much is going to happen now until the last week or 2.

In the next 2 weeks. "I'm a united player get me outta here" will premier.....

 

[bosskeano]

just seems like we are overpricing players and wanting max value....just a very silly selling strategy

we NEED to move the likes of Dalot, Andreas to bring in some funds in order to solidify the squad with players who will actually fukng play and contribute

 

[48 hours]

In the next 2 weeks. "I'm a united player get me outta here" will premier.....

a series of events where players sit on a bench or in a physio room, have money forced into their wallets and nobody can vote them out?

 

[KennyBurner]

just seems like we are overpricing players and wanting max value....just a very silly selling strategy

we NEED to move the likes of Dalot, Andreas to bring in some funds in order to solidify the squad with players who will actually fukng play and contribute

We have been selling below player market value for years. Club has had enough and I cant blame them. We need to start selling players for a good fee at some point. The issue goes even deeper because we keep giving out insane wages for players not good enough. Lingard should never be on 100k per week to begin with.

 

[bosskeano]

hard to sell a player for a decent fee when his salary is way out of line with other clubs that would want to purchase the player.....we pay top salaries for even the second tier players which is why we can't sell them

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

a series of events where players sit on a bench or in a physio room, have money forced into their wallets and nobody can vote them out?

Rather they will be begging their agents go get then to leave when they realise they might not make the EPL squad before Jones....

 

[Chesterlestreet]

hard to sell a player for a decent fee when his salary is way out of line with other clubs that would want to purchase the player.....we pay top salaries for even the second tier players which is why we can't sell them

We've been horrible in that regard for years.

We've had a number of players who would've been very interesting/attractive to any number of teams (even if they're considered shite by our fans) - but who can't be moved on easily to any of those teams simply because their wages are insanely high relatively speaking.

 

[wolvored]

Tuanzebe to sign a years contract then go out on loan for a year! What a shambles this is. Just feck them off for free if no one wants to buy. Will save tens of millions on wages.
As good as the incomings have been, whoever runs the outgoings and contract resigning for players who are never going to play for the first team needs retraining or sacking. Surely its not the same people?

 

[bosskeano]

The inability to move guys like andres, jones, dalot, matic, mata....for any sort of money is costing us dearly in the transfer market when guys like this become available who are head and shoulders better players

this is quite ridiculous....a player of this quality for that price we should be looking to sign

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[Red_toad]

We have been selling below player market value for years. Club has had enough and I cant blame them. We need to start selling players for a good fee at some point. The issue goes even deeper because we keep giving out insane wages for players not good enough. Lingard should never be on 100k per week to begin with.

You’ll be glad to know he’s only in £3.9 million per year then, stop reading the sun for wages information about United players…

 

[bosskeano]

looks like we could end up with a huge influx of cash if this sale were to take place

https://football-italia.net/inter-owe-man-utd-money-and-cut-of-lukaku-fee/

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I never expect more than CB and Sancho before last season ended honestly. To me this is already what I expected. I don't expect us to sell the likes of Dalot, Jones, Pereira anyway, I expect them going on loan while the only ones I always expected who have values to sell are Lingard and James.

 

[Rocksy]

this would be a great starting point with shipping out Pereira.....but United want 25m for him and once again it seems like another club just wanting a loan deal

https://turkish-football.com/fenerbahce-make-offer-for-man-united-midfielder-andreas-pereira/

25 million! There’s only a handful of clubs who have that to spend, and they’d be looking at better players than him for that. Surely his value is around 7/8m + add ons + sell on.

 

[Rocksy]

We have been selling below player market value for years. Club has had enough and I cant blame them. We need to start selling players for a good fee at some point. The issue goes even deeper because we keep giving out insane wages for players not good enough. Lingard should never be on 100k per week to begin with.

I can’t think of many players sold at below value. Some were sold at losses but that was because they’d not worked out as buys. Wouldn’t it be better to start moving players out for lower fees but with add ons? Lingard for 30 million is nonsense and limits his market to England. His value is just nowhere near that, even if he had 2/3 years on his contract.

 

[bosskeano]

25 million! There’s only a handful of clubs who have that to spend, and they’d be looking at better players than him for that. Surely his value is around 7/8m + add ons + sell on.

25m for him is asinine...just ffs sell him for half that amount. Get the money and get his wages off the board. You sell him for 13-14m and it would cost just another 3-4m to get a quality player like Sabitzer.

 

[CG1010]

Wonder if United would consider increasing their budget now that our competitors are splurging big cash. If Lukaku and Grealish deals go through, all of United, City and Chelsea would have spent similar amounts (don't believe Kane deal will happen then). While I still think United will get the greatest value of their signings, they clearly want this year to be a breakout one. Maybe they will rush to get a midfielder and RB that Ole wants to do one over City.

 

[RkkMan]

Always felt it would be the case after Sancho and Varane and I'll stand by what I said then that if we do more business afterwards it'll be Trippier and that's it. Based off Laurie's article today(which also said more signings are dependent on sales and a midfield signing is unlikely) bar Pereira on a permanent deal(£15m if we're VERY lucky) other sales will likely be a bunch of loan deals with small fees from Axel, Williams, Laird, Pellistri, suspecting Amad if Lingard as expected stays and probably Dalot. Add an extra £5m from the Lukaku sell on clause and you probably only have around £20m or slightly above in total which only gets us Trippier

 

[Nytram Shakes]

we NEED to move the likes of Dalot, Andreas to bring in some funds in order to solidify the squad with players who will actually fukng play and contribute

Personly think we should be charging a pretty dime for Dalot. I don’t get why people are so desperate for us to sell an obviously really talented player not reached his prime yet and replace him with trippier a player past his prime. Especially considering both should be playing back up for AWB

 

[Bestietom]

Our deadwood will be hard to sell with wages they are getting here.

 

[Mickson]

Personly think we should be charging a pretty dime for Dalot. I don’t get why people are so desperate for us to sell an obviously really talented player not reached his prime yet and replace him with trippier a player past his prime. Especially considering both should be playing back up for AWB

Because Dalot is not good enough, isn't ambitious enough, and is supposedly ignorant in the dressing room. Just look at his cameo against Brentford.

United could sell 5, 6 players without problems for the squad. However, no one wants to pay the salary for Pereira, Jones etc. We should shell: Dalot, Pereira, Jones, James and Lingard.

 

[Bestietom]

Because Dalot is not good enough, isn't ambitious enough, and is supposedly ignorant in the dressing room. Just look at his cameo against Brentford.

United could sell 5, 6 players without problems for the squad. However, no one wants to pay the salary for Pereira, Jones etc. We should shell: Dalot, Pereira, Jones, James and Lingard.

Wages too big.

 

[Infra-red]

Incredible really that we look to be going into another season with McFred as the first choice midfield pairing. Having such limited players in the engine room will definitely limit what we can do.

 

[Infra-red]

Wages too big.

Yeah - perpetual problem at United. That extension to Phil Jones's contract (to ensure we could preserve his value and sell him for a decent fee!) is looking like the masterstroke we all knew it to be at the time.

 

[Bestietom]

Yeah - perpetual problem at United. That extension to Phil Jones's contract (to ensure we could preserve his value and sell him for a decent fee!) is looking like the masterstroke we all knew it to be at the time.

Ye, and will most likely go on a FREE now, if anyone prepared to pay his wages.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Our deadwood will be hard to sell with wages they are getting here.

This is something so many of our fans don't grasp and fall for it every single summer. 20m for this player 30m for that etc.

We pay our players far too much money that we get stuck with them. There's not a club in world football who'd pay Martial 250k a week but us for example so he's going nowhere. Who would give Mata 160k a week at his age to be a bit part player? Only us.

 

[Bestietom]

This is something so many of our fans don't grasp and fall for it every single summer. 20m for this player 30m for that etc.

We pay our players far too much money that we get stuck with them. There's not a club in world football who'd pay Martial 250k a week but us for example so he's going nowhere. Who would give Mata 160k a week at his age to be a bit part player? Only us.

We had to pay half of Sanchez wages to get rid of him.
I hope these contracts change now with Woodward going.

 

[GBBQ]

looks like we could end up with a huge influx of cash if this sale were to take place

https://football-italia.net/inter-owe-man-utd-money-and-cut-of-lukaku-fee/

We'll get the 5 mil for the sell on fee up front but the remainder of what is owed for Lukaku will be paid in the pre-agreed installments (unless Inter want to pay a lump sum to get rid of the debt) so it probably doesn't alter our transfer funds all that much.

 

[Hoof the ball]

So freakin' slow moving any player out, loan or transfer.

 

[JJ12]

So freakin' slow moving any player out, loan or transfer.

We are asking for 20-25m for Pereira. I can see why we aren’t moving anyone out.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Can’t see us shifting many players permanently, we’re terrible at it. Will be mostly loan deals I think so we won’t be raising much cash from player sales to fund any further business.

 

[redmanx]

In the next 2 weeks. "I'm a united player get me outta here" will premier.....

Lingard, Peirot, Pogba, Jones, Dalot, Martial, Lindelof and Matic should all be sold to make way for fresh blood and to get the dead wood out and off the wages bill. Matic is well past his best, Lingard will never get any better, Dalot, Lindelof and Peiot are now surplus to requirements, and the less said about Jones, Martial and Pogba the better.

 

[Bilbo]

For me, Sancho + Varane and a Pogba signature on a reasonable contract would be a fantastic summer. Trippier I think will also happen late on. We are far too reliant on AWB and an injury to him would be a real problem.

Outgoings will happen but I doubt it will move before the last week while everyone plays the patience game. Fully expect Lingard, Dalot, Pereira to depart the club and also probably one of Bailly and Jones

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Because Dalot is not good enough, isn't ambitious enough, and is supposedly ignorant in the dressing room. Just look at his cameo against Brentford.

United could sell 5, 6 players without problems for the squad. However, no one wants to pay the salary for Pereira, Jones etc. We should shell: Dalot, Pereira, Jones, James and Lingard.

I have no idea what he like in the dressing room, but Dalot was great for Milan last season. As back up right back for me he is definitely good enough. Judging him by a preseason-friendly cameo is nonsense.

Everyone keeps shouting we need to sell players, but you can only sell players if people want to buy them and right now football across Europe is broke. The premier league is broke (including ourselves) for that matter it just has a better credit line to rack up debt with.

Right now it seems likely the only money we are going to pull in is through loans as that's all the clubs who want these players can afford right now.

I do agree completely that the wages we pay are too high. When offering a contract we need to consider that if things don't work out are we going to have significant difficulties moving his player on as they would need to take a big pay cut. It is something we have messed up time and time again, from the big contracts like Sanchez, De Gea, and Rooney to contracts of players like Anderson, Rojo, Romero, Jones.

Realistically though there is nothing we can do about the bad contracts on the books, we just need to avoid adding to them. Personally, I think bringing in Tripper for anything more than a nominal fee and a 2-year contract would be doing just that. Fullbacks with the amount of ground they have to cover in the premier league very rarely age well.

 

[RkkMan]

I have no idea what he like in the dressing room, but Dalot was great for Milan last season. As back up right back for me he is definitely good enough. Judging him by a preseason-friendly cameo is nonsense.

Everyone keeps shouting we need to sell players, but you can only sell players if people want to buy them and right now football across Europe is broke. The premier league is broke (including ourselves) for that matter it just has a better credit line to rack up debt with.

Right now it seems likely the only money we are going to pull in is through loans as that's all the clubs who want these players can afford right now.

I do agree completely that the wages we pay are too high. When offering a contract we need to consider that if things don't work out are we going to have significant difficulties moving his player on as they would need to take a big pay cut. It is something we have messed up time and time again, from the big contracts like Sanchez, De Gea, and Rooney to contracts of players like Anderson, Rojo, Romero, Jones.

Realistically though there is nothing we can do about the bad contracts on the books, we just need to avoid adding to them. Personally, I think bringing in Tripper for anything more than a nominal fee and a 2-year contract would be doing just that. Fullbacks with the amount of ground they have to cover in the premier league very rarely age well.

If he was good enough as a back up RB we wouldn't need to be using FOSU MENSAH and Brandon Williams as back up RBs to AWB
We also wouldn't be subjected to playing AWB for 54 games
Dalot at Milan was not good he ranged from average to decent that's not good enough for a club like Utd and we shouldn't be subjected to him when a team like City can pick between Walker and Cancelo

 

[Giggsy13]

Leave it to the club to end off the window on a bit of a sour note. We are terrible at times in getting rid of deadwood and our demands for fees are ridiculous. Demanding £20 million for Pereira when liverpool are only demanding a minimum fee of roughly £13 million for Shaqiri, who despite being a bit part squad player, has a more proven record of success. The fact Lingard is potentially staying is also farcical.

 

[Matthew84!]

Seems Williams and Tuanzebe are going out on loan which is much needed,
Pereira is for sale
Dalot appears to have admirers
Lingard i think will stay as he knows Utd are gonna be good this season.
Not going to make much in sales.
Pereira will go for 15m + add ons
Dalot loan or 10m + add ons.
Jones i can't decide if he's going to leave on a free or sit his contract out.