Pretty brutal for Raphinha, Rodrygo and Richarlison.
Gabriel Martinelli
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And Richarlison (even though I don't rate him that highly).
There is also Paqueta 
It happens.
Just like when Arsenal were set to sign Cristiano Ronaldo before we went in for him. He was very close to joining Arsenal.
Good player.
The reason we rejected him may be heading to jail
I feel his performance this season is giving Tite something to think about because before the season he had an outsider chance.
They're unbelievably stacked but it's brazil so I guess it's to be expected.
He's a very good player. A dream for a direct, counter attack team.
Only query I have is sometimes he hesitates and waits for ball to come to him when it's passed rather than he runs onto it if people know what I mean so that gives defences an extra split second to get organised.
Brazil are stacked in final third, big favourites to win the world cup.
Only query I have is sometimes he hesitates and waits for ball to come to him when it's passed rather than he runs onto it if people know what I mean so that gives defences an extra split second to get organised.
Brazil are stacked in final third, big favourites to win the world cup.
Struggling to see what the hype is all about.
He has pace - not sure what else?
He has pace - not sure what else?
He ain't no Garnacho.
The hype is normally by insufferable Arsenal fans which it’s fair to say can be dismissed as just that, hype.
A poor man's Rashford.
He's a really good player, fast, direct and skilfull. Only 21, he had a poor game tonight but that doesnt change the fact he's one of the best youngsters in the world.
I don't see it myself. I'd say Saka is miles better, has a greater impact on the game, doesn't rely on one facet, and gets Arsenal ticking a lot better than Martinelli. And he's younger I think?
hasn’t been great in 2023. Neither has zinchenko.
Very good player. Dunno whether he'll break into the world's elite or not but I find him pretty worrisome when he's running at our full back. Not a bad scoring record either for a wide forward, with some improvement possible there.
Misses Jesus stretching defenders against "normal" opposition but against City he was always going to struggle. Trossard couldn't do much either.
It’s easy to jump on after a few quiet games after a lot of football but he had a fantastic 2022 and is very exciting to watch. Quick feet, intelligent and dangerous.
Arsenal’s issue has been playing the same players week in week out and teams now doubling up on their wingers. They are out of steam but he is still a fantastic player.
Arsenal’s issue has been playing the same players week in week out and teams now doubling up on their wingers. They are out of steam but he is still a fantastic player.
Well of course Saka is better. He's probably the best player of his year bracket.
Yes he's had a slow second half of the season. Hopefully it will continue.
I understand the angle you come from I partially agree to some extend. However, I still believe Martinelli's own shortcoming that plays a part in his form right now.
He's hugely benefited from G.Jesus, who often move and occupy the wide attacking position. Also G.Jesus occupies the left wing more than the right. This helps dragging the defenders and create a space for Martinelli to shake off marker before receiving pass. Now it's easier for opposition to know who primarily receive pass on Arsenal left wing, and to assign extra defenders to defend. Before, you don't know when to assign two defenders on Jesus, or Martinelli when Jesus moves to left wing because they would just pass to whoever is in favored 1vs 1 situation.
Saka is on another level in comparison. He also runs the whole flank himself, when his supporting fullbacks are tasked with a more conservative role (a hybrid full back/ third CB role)
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But but but Zinchenko' touch map against us...
He's been incredibly isolated on the left wing since Jesus got injured. The comparisons to Saka are weird because Saka has Odegaard playing very close to him on the right and White/Tomiyasu regularly overlapping.
Martinelli has to play with Xhaka, who is a lot less mobile and involved on the left than Odegaard is on the right, and Zinchenko, who drops into midfield more often than overlapping. It's not really a surprise he's been struggling more recently.
21 year old kid who has shown a lot of potential. Talking about going overboard with one bad game Vs probably the strongest side in the league.
More the fact he hasn't scored or assisted in 6 games.
I think he might be better down the middle, his pace can stretch defenders. Not sure about his finishing though.
He misses Jesus. Nketiah is the type of player that will stay fairly central whereas Jesus liked to come out to the left and have Martinelli rotate fluidly with him in terms of the centre role.
He's a good player and it is possible that he could step up in the future and become a top player. However, it is far from the guarantee and inevitability that Arsenal fans would lead you to believe.
Rashford had a two year spell at 22-24 where he struggled, he is young this will happen.
Chelsea have 3 new 2001 players: Fernandez, Badiashile and Mudryk - but probably only Fernandez comes close to Saka's value yeah.
Only other one I can think of is Kvaratskhelia at Napoli right now.
Long-term he's going to be a centre forward, right ?
I'm sure he'll be reet, he's talented and plays in a good team, young players go through bad patches, it happens.
I only became aware of this thread today, and I think it is so very sad that we let this one go. He is a superb young talent, he knows how to play the game, and he'll get better.
He hasn't shown any indication of being a prolific goalscorer in the future. He is also not strong physically and his main strength is running fast with the ball.
Unless he develops a lot of different skills I don't think so. He's not suited to play there at the moment nor I think he's intended to.
He's ace. Which fools in our youth setup turned him down?