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I wouldn't feel sorry for her. She's an authoritarian figure obsessed with power and control. We see that with ECHR, control over the internet, this election, brexit and her complete inability to have a normal conversation. She over-prepares to the point where she can't sound natural, and when she does go off script, she gets defensive.I feel a little sorry for her: she's not a lying war-monger like Blair or a fake charm merchant like Cameron. I think she is a virtuous and hard working team player who should never have been promoted into the top leadership position. Ultimately, she got the top job without being properly vetted via an election and so she was found to be lacking in true leadership skills when she did.
They should get Harrison Ford to retire her the fecking replicant!From those answers its evident that Maybot 2000 is past her use date and should be scheduled in for decommissioning.
Amber Rudd's only a few hundred tactical votes away from losing her seat so they can't pick her.Thing about Boris that's gone a little under the radar - his majority in Uxbridge is now only 5k. Quite possible that Labour's near maxed-out their vote in London, but it's still not quite as secure as you'd want a leader. Cameron and May's were over 20k.
If they genuinely looked like taking it, then I suspect the Lib Dems and Greens would drop out since that adds an extra 5% or so to the Labour vote. Conversely though, UKIP would drop out too, bringing it back a bit. I expect if Boris was PM he'd get a voting boost in his constituency, but hard to tell. Certainly a bit of a risk, albeit nowhere near the same level of risk with Rudd.Thing about Boris that's gone a little under the radar - his majority in Uxbridge is now only 5k. Quite possible that Labour's near maxed-out their vote in London, but it's still not quite as secure as you'd want a leader. Cameron and May's were over 20k.
I still wouldn't put it past them to try to get a Scottish MP to resign and then punt Davidson in...but then someone pointed out to me that the whole EVEL thing would make it a bit silly, since we'd have a PM who can't actually vote on anything related to health/education etc. And putting her in an English constituency would seem daft.Yup Rudd would just be asking for trouble. I think in the end if it's going to be anyone, it'll be Johnson.
Does that make Jezza Corbyn a blade runner then?They should get Harrison Ford to retire her the fecking replicant!
Yes! Yes it does!Does that make Jezza Corbyn a blade runner then?
I also think she'd struggle to win the leadership. She's a bit like Ken Clarke, avowedly pro-EU/single market to the extent that there's no way the right would allow her the leadership unchallenged, and the Tory headbanging membership would probably go for any eurosceptic up against her (outside of John Redwood). Imagine if it's Leadsom.I still wouldn't put it past them to try to get a Scottish MP to resign and then punt Davidson in...but then someone pointed out to me that the whole EVEL thing would make it a bit silly, since we'd have a PM who can't actually vote on anything related to health/education etc. And putting her in an English constituency would seem daft.
I could see an outsider like Javid maybe emerging to the forefront if the frontrunners aren't all that impressive.
The Tories go to strategy it to present themselves as the strong, competent party which is one of the reason May's campaign was so laughable. If their next leader looks scared of losing their seat it would go the same way this election did.Couldn't they just have Rudd run in a safer seat? Might not be a great look but has to be worth it if they decide she's their best option.
Yet if he had done many of the things within his control he wouldn't have got the result he did.My point is that this "great campaign" which went "better than anyone expected" involved not winning an election. And when I point this out, I'm told it's because it's a great result considering how badly Labour were polling beforehand. As though the bad polling beforehand was down to events beyond his control. Which is, of course, nonsense.
A woman and party who have made a day job out of ruining and in an unforgivable number of cases, ending the lives of people in this country, whilst ensuring they'll never have to worry about another bill in their life. feck the lot of them.i can't decide if I feel sorry for her or not. If I do it's because she's been the recipient of some God awful advice. But then it's hard to believe a senior politician in her 60s having held one of the great offices of state for 7 years could be naive enough not to know awful advice when she's getting it.
He wont touch it with a barge pole till someone else drags brexit through. He knows it political suicide.Yup Rudd would just be asking for trouble. I think in the end if it's going to be anyone, it'll be Johnson.
Politicians ability to completely avoid a question and their use of repetition always frustrates me. It always reminds me of the Ed video below.Tweet
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Who's the problem, and as I don't confidently have an answer, I'll give you that one.Who ?
I don't think they don't care about the single market, it's that once you say that you want access to single market then inevitably the racist and xenophobic follow up question will be - ''so you want to give up the control of your boarders then''. I'm not saying Labour argument is a good one, it's not and I would rather McDonnell and Corbyn be honest say that this borders stuff is a load of shite, but I can see why they are doing it.
They could just scrap EVEL though, with a simple majority vote in the commons.I still wouldn't put it past them to try to get a Scottish MP to resign and then punt Davidson in...but then someone pointed out to me that the whole EVEL thing would make it a bit silly, since we'd have a PM who can't actually vote on anything related to health/education etc. And putting her in an English constituency would seem daft.
I could see an outsider like Javid maybe emerging to the forefront if the frontrunners aren't all that impressive.
https://constitution-unit.com/2016/...tes-for-english-laws-in-the-house-of-commons/Our research suggests that the question of whether EVEL has created two classes of MP is more a question of judgement than fact. On the one hand, EVEL does give certain MPs voting rights that others do not possess. On the other, the provision of special rights for MPs based on the territorial location of their constituencies is not entirely new to the Commons (for example, the Scottish Grand Committee consisted of MPs representing Scottish constituencies). But it is also important to recognise that EVEL implements a ‘double veto’, meaning that England-only legislation must be approved by a majority of both English and UK-wide MPs in order to pass. All UK MPs retain the right to speak and vote on all bills that come before the Commons, and they may therefore continue to exercise a decisive say on them. If non-English MPs objected to an England-only bill (for example, a future proposal on grammar schools), they would be in no weaker a position to block it today than they were prior to EVEL. The force of this particular criticism of EVEL is therefore, to some extent, limited by the design of the current system.
He damaged his credibility with his handling of the business rates increases.I still wouldn't put it past them to try to get a Scottish MP to resign and then punt Davidson in...but then someone pointed out to me that the whole EVEL thing would make it a bit silly, since we'd have a PM who can't actually vote on anything related to health/education etc. And putting her in an English constituency would seem daft.
I could see an outsider like Javid maybe emerging to the forefront if the frontrunners aren't all that impressive.
And yet they're already trying to spin it towards meaning soft brexit. You can see their plan from a mile away.Any chance of changing that title to "Cabinet Meh-Shuffle"... very little actual change.
This is quite a common thing with Corbyn, The Newstatesmen devoted a whole issue to the subject of ''A Real Opposition'' and they came to the same answer.Who's the problem, and as I don't confidently have an answer, I'll give you that one.
Would never happen. We only have to look back at what these pro EU tories thought of Labour under Corbyn, George Osborne(The man who's economic policy caused the deaths of the most vulnerable and poorest in society)happily watched as Corbyn was branded a terrorist sympathiser and also recently as The Evening Standard Editor put out the headline - ''Comrade Corbyn Flies The Red Flag''. Other pro EU tories such as Michael Heseltine(Who still doesn't think UK will leave)said only yesterday that the number one priority for the Conservative Party is to stop Corbyn becoming PM. But also Corbyn would never work with them and rightfully so, one of the best moves made by Corbyn that rarely gets mentioned was his refusal to campaign with Cameron during the referendum.In their defence, the approach seemed to pay off in the last election. If it will do so going forward is a different question. Now is the time to fight for a softer Brexit (see Davidson, Hammond) but again they're not interested in the topic. We could have been in a situation now of the opposition fighting alongside senior Tories against Theresa May's proposed hard Brexit, and something valuable actually being achieved. This is the main failure of their leadership for me.
I think we're just in disagreement here.This is quite a common thing with Corbyn, The Newstatesmen devoted a whole issue to the subject of ''A Real Opposition'' and they came to the same answer.
Would never happen. We only have to look back at what these pro EU tories thought of Labour under Corbyn, George Osborne(The man who's economic policy caused the deaths of the most vulnerable and poorest in society)happily watched as Corbyn was branded a terrorist sympathiser and also recently as The Evening Standard Editor put out the headline - ''Comrade Corbyn Flies The Red Flag''. Other pro EU tories such as Michael Heseltine(Who still doesn't think UK will leave)said only yesterday that the number one priority for the Conservative Party is to stop Corbyn becoming PM. But also Corbyn would never work with them and rightfully so, one of the best moves made by Corbyn that rarely gets mentioned was his refusal to campaign with Cameron during the referendum.
More a refusal to campaign full stop, which contributed greatly to the outcome of the referendum.This is quite a common thing with Corbyn, The Newstatesmen devoted a whole issue to the subject of ''A Real Opposition'' and they came to the same answer.
Would never happen. We only have to look back at what these pro EU tories thought of Labour under Corbyn, George Osborne(The man who's economic policy caused the deaths of the most vulnerable and poorest in society)happily watched as Corbyn was branded a terrorist sympathiser and also recently as The Evening Standard Editor put out the headline - ''Comrade Corbyn Flies The Red Flag''. Other pro EU tories such as Michael Heseltine(Who still doesn't think UK will leave)said only yesterday that the number one priority for the Conservative Party is to stop Corbyn becoming PM. But also Corbyn would never work with them and rightfully so, one of the best moves made by Corbyn that rarely gets mentioned was his refusal to campaign with Cameron during the referendum.
Thats just a mental statement all round. Do you honestly think Corbyn has that much influence?More a refusal to campaign full stop, which contributed greatly to the outcome of the referendum.
The guy who just managed to make the country go from thinking he was a bit useless to thinking he's make a good potential PM in a campiagn of just a few months? Yeah I think he could have make a real difference for Remain if he'd actually supported it. Especially considering so many Leave voters were working class.Thats just a mental statement all round. Do you honestly think Corbyn has that much influence?
If you were arguing the Labour campaign that would be slightly less ridiculous but even then 'contributed greatly' is too much.
A Labour Brexit wouldn't actually be the same as Mays. And they have been attacking the prospect of a hard Brexit, Corbyn when talking about Brexit(boringly in my view)mentions ''Tax Heaven, low productivity of the shores of Europe ect'' that's doesn't mean Labour plan is any good(It's at best muddled)I think we're just in disagreement here.
I'm not suggesting some sort of joint Corbyn/ Liberal Tory campaign, I'm talking about the idea of an opposition putting such pressure on the government that the media and sympathetic MPs turn on them, forcing a policy U-turn. That's a pretty common event (see NI rise, tax credits cut, grammar schools).
This is the time to attack the prospect of a hard Brexit, while momentum is against May and her vision. But Corbyn's team aren't interested, and while the opposition support the same colour of Brexit as May, the growing calls for a change of tact (see Osborne, Davidson, Umanna, Clegg post election) can be ignored much more easily.
It would also be a huge political win for Labour if they managed to shift the direction of Brexit. But again, you have to assume this isn't something Corbyn and McDonnell are interested in. They've long been sceptical of the EU, have at-best lukewarm opinions on capitalism and haven't focused at all on the benefits of the single market.
I was shocked by how much of the remain vote Labour appeared to hive up in this election. Sadly it doesn't look like they're going to do anything with it.
Yeah that's not true.More a refusal to campaign full stop, which contributed greatly to the outcome of the referendum.
A campaign built on change and hope not the status quo. He's a good campaigner but Corbyn by himself would not have shifted thar vote. Im really not trying to apologise for him or anything i just dont see it.The guy who just managed to make the country go from thinking he was a bit useless to thinking he's make a good potential PM in a campiagn of just a few months? Yeah I think he could have make a real difference for Remain if he'd actually supported it. Especially considering so many Leave voters were working class.
At this rate the next vote will be to abolish the union.Bros in the UK, I have a question for you: since the Fall 0f 2014, the UK had four votes: the Scottish Referendum, the 2015 elections, Brexit and the 2017 elections. Isn't that too much? What's your take on this?
People are sick of it. This was a popular meme for the 2017 election.Bros in the UK, I have a question for you: since the Fall 0f 2014, the UK had four votes: the Scottish Referendum, the 2015 elections, Brexit and the 2017 elections. Isn't that too much? What's your take on this?
Of course it's too much. But it was always inevitable once Dave called that referendum.Bros in the UK, I have a question for you: since the Fall 0f 2014, the UK had four votes: the Scottish Referendum, the 2015 elections, Brexit and the 2017 elections. Isn't that too much? What's your take on this?
Given the turnout in the latest general election, id say no. Not yet. (Well, i havent taken part in the Scottish one)Bros in the UK, I have a question for you: since the Fall 0f 2014, the UK had four votes: the Scottish Referendum, the 2015 elections, Brexit and the 2017 elections. Isn't that too much? What's your take on this?
I don't see why it is personally, would have been better not to have some of them but using it as a basis not to have another one as the tories are doing is daft.Bros in the UK, I have a question for you: since the Fall 0f 2014, the UK had four votes: the Scottish Referendum, the 2015 elections, Brexit and the 2017 elections. Isn't that too much? What's your take on this?