ivaldo
Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?
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Spot on you are either offside or you aren’t.At least Neville is right with the offside. In no way can you introduce a tolerance.
Well, back in the good old days when common sense prevailed, you used to give the benefit of the doubt to the attackers because people were rational and realized that football was a game of fine margins, and that metres, not margins, were the problem in terms of offside calls. Regrettably, VAR has killed common sense.Spot on you are either offside or you aren’t.
Just heard commentator saying but its hard to score and we love goals......well make the goals a bit bigger then!
Forwards never got the benefit of the doubt now. Come on. Its why they tried to introduce daylight and that fell on its ass as well.Well, back in the good old days when common sense prevailed, you used to give the benefit of the doubt to the attackers because people were rational and realized that football was a game of fine margins, and that metres, not margins, were the problem in terms of offside calls. Regrettably, VAR has killed common sense.
Well, back in the good old days when common sense prevailed, you used to give the benefit of the doubt to the attackers because people were rational and realized that football was a game of fine margins, and that metres, not margins, were the problem in terms of offside calls. Regrettably, VAR has killed common sense.
I second that motion, pretty much given up on the premier league this season though anyway after Spurs pen on the weekend.If I was a Chelsea fan then I'd be more annoyed at Maguire not being sent off than either of the two disallowed goals.
Push from azpi on Williams, which the ball could have been header away by Williams to prevent the goal.No idea how VAR overruled the 1st one, but the 2nd one was indisputable.
Also the kick out from Maguire looked blatant to me.
Yeah, you're right. Probably more correct to say that people used to say you should give forwards the benefit of the doubt. And now they say rules are rules and there can be no in-between. Shows the attitude change created by VAR (which I utterly disagree with).Good post but they rarely did get the benefit of the doubt. Officials were usually too scared to give the goal.
Fred pushed Azpi into Williams first though. If Fred doesn't push, Azpi doesn't. After seeing the replay I was surprised VAR ruled it out.Push from azpi on Williams, which the ball could have been header away by Williams to prevent the goal.
And after he's dampened the collision he extends his arms again and obviously pushes him off balance as he's going to clear the ball, which allows him to flick it on instead of Williams.He used two hands to dampen a collision made inevitable by the Fred shove. It's a blatant mistake, the fact that it benefited us doesn't change that.
Maguire was just trying to straighten his leg to hold him up. By the penis. Case closed.
Yes i also fully believe Maguire, he was definitely scared for his life and had to protect himself. 2 out of 3 for VAR which is good, too bad the one they missed may have been a game changing one playing with 10 for 70min.Honestly I think this is true. But I'd be howling for a red if it was against us.
Exactly. Just seems to be pundits trying to cause controversy. A lot of them were moaning when wrong decisions were being made every week. People are now moaning because goals are being disallowed. They would rather see goals rather correct decisions.Giroud was a good foot offside and williams was pushed. If youre mad about this youre just mad about VAR, if anything this is a shining example of why it was introduced
Yes i also fully believe Maguire, he was definitely scared for his life and had to protect himself. 2 out of 3 for VAR which is good, too bad the one they missed may have been a game changing one playing with 10 for 70min.
If the ref told VAR "I saw the foot go up and it made contact but I didn't think it was deliberate enough" then it's not that easy for VAR to say the ref was definitely wrong. They may well have thought it was a red but that's not enough for an overturn.I thought the push was a 50/50 call. I thought Maguire was a definite red card.
The offside is offside but tough to see for any lino.
Doesn't feel like a great night for VAR.
Maguire decision is clear to us all? How do they decide oh no, its fine.