Think they've patched up since. Were all chummy during the WC.
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
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For M&A transactions that is sadly true from my experience. Expect the unexpected. But we'll know tomorrow who the bidders are will be which is a start.
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Qatar isn’t allied with Iran, they share a giant gas field so is in favour of a more diplomatic relationship rather than the aggressive approach UAE and Saudi want. They also have different geopolitical goals, such as Qatar supporting more Islamic leaning parties in places like Egypt and Libya whereas UAE wants autocrats (like Sisi in Egypt) they can control.
Fair. Used to write about this topic but it's been a few years!
I know who it is for, that's what I meant, but it's meaningless, unless they pay the full price or manage to reach another agreement satisfactory to the Glazers. Qatar may be trying to get the fans on their side with sweet words about infrastructure, Mbappe, Bellingham, the who shebang, but fan pressure has never meant anything to our illustrious owners. They won't accept anything less than what they want, particularly if £4,5bn is the highest Qatar will go, and they've proven they will walk away.
I'm a pathological cynic, courtesy of the Glazers' ownership. The club will either remain in their hands or be sold off to another bunch of clueless Americans, probably someone they are chummy with, or someone they have mutual ventures with. Can't see all this ending any other way. We will know soon enough.
Fecking years? More like decades -- all started with the cnut Marge.
Maybe the Qataris caught wind of the potential bidder who the Raine Group's leaning towards -- and thus the PR piece of urban regeneration of the SW Manchester area?
I cant see a PE bidder offering what the Abu Dhabians or the Qataris could potentially do. Way too long a timeline for any PE never mind, local boy Ratcliffe.
Maybe. Impossible to tell but it is kind of weird the way the PR machine is in full swing before a bid has been lodged. Although I've never been part of a transaction involving a football club so maybe they are just trying to get the fans on board as early as possible. Or all of Keegan's articles are pure guesswork or from poor sources.
Its very possible.
Maybe he has a low level source and the fact that he is a lone wolf on this story ensures they have plausible deniability. If they fail they can always say they couldn't convince UEFA so they decided to just focus on PSG.
Another school of thought would say this has some of the hallmarks of an initial PR onslaught reflecting their confidence and they just need to condition skeptical fans to the inevitability of their takeover and the big plans they have not only for the club but for the city too. For such a proud people coming out publicly like this can only reflect confidence and having seen Avram Glazer in Qatar its unreasonable to think they know what it will take to win and they are prepared to eventually pay it but they need to manage the optics for their domestic politics.
See there are several other ways through which they can earn except dividend:
1) Management fees could be charged from the club.
2) Several investors being interested in their other assets or companies and getting favourable deals due to being associated with Manutd.
3) Getting sponsors through Marketing associated with Manutd for their other businesses.
4) Selling some minor percentage of shares and getting a huge one off payment, when market is at its peak or stock price is high for manutd.
5) Eventual capital gain when selling off Utd.
Good points.
You speak as though owners taking money out is a regular thing... The Glazers are alone in this it's unprecedented and I doubt INEOS would do it.
Debt for them equals tax relief, so it helps a business.
Debt at this level is not like you owing a 2 grand loan.
Arabic commentary is the most fun to listen to. Surely, this enough to support Qatar's bid?
Can’t anyone read?
Wow, wading through the last 10 pages it’s almost like we said post all the moralising arguments and off topic stuff you want. I mean it’s not like we have a thread for that. Down with just keeping this to purely sale driven talk. Good work guys
Looking forward to see which American consortiums would bid for United.
Rumours are the two involved are Harris Blitzer sports entertainment and Steve Pagliuca both of which have the backing of unknown investment funds.
Harris crowd are reportedly after a minority stake.
Please no. Just no
Steve Ballmer make an ideal owner if he bids.
Seems unlikely though, as he’s passionate about basketball, not football.
Seems unlikely though, as he’s passionate about basketball, not football.
When I asked a question about Qatar vs Abu Dhabi in terms of wealth etc I was told off. Honestly its full Greta Thunberg/Madre Theresa in here.
I never wanted a middle east oil money. But il take it over American hedge funds and consortiums
Just popping in to say, dont expect to hear about the bidders on Friday its just a soft deadline for intent to bid.
Big day tomorrow.
We will hear from bidders. It doesn't necessarily have to mean all the bidders, but there will be a couple we hear from.
You would imagine that it won't stay silent for long as the Club will need to make statements due to them being publicly listed however, they also mentioned that they will not necessarily make any statement unless the Board approve a specific transaction.
I would imagine that interested parties may start making public noises next week saying if they've thrown their hat in the ring or not.
I would imagine that interested parties may start making public noises next week saying if they've thrown their hat in the ring or not.
I doubt if there will be any big press announcement. It's only a preliminary cut off point. Even with leaks who knows if it will be the eventual winner.
The PR activity by Qatar makes me a little concerned.
Yep. The bids don't even have to be made public at this stage. The actual deadline is definitely the start of next month, which is when the formal process will begin. And that's if the Glazers remain committed to the sale of the club.
Surprised it's not ramping up that much with a day to go.
Big day tomorrow.
Jim White will be dusting off his gold tie tomorrow no doubt making a huge deal about it on TalkSport and the countdown being on.
I don‘t know, but show me a tweet where the Qataris say they want to keep Ten Hag. All I have seen are promises of train stations, Mbappés and Bellinghams.What is with these ridiculous hot takes regarding Pep, are people just fishing
Although if they did, it would be meaningless because once they own United, they can do whatever they feel like.
The City fans expect Pep to jump ship before they ever get slapped with punishments.
Suppose it's very different to the government imposed Chelsea deadlines. This is just step 1 in a more flexible process which is crawling with NDAs
Moot point. They haven't said they will get rid of him either. The most recent owner to come in and sack a coach was American, by the way. A very questionable decision in retrospect, to say the least. Newcastle on the other hand have done splendidly ever since. There are no guarantees with any owner in this regard. And to be brutally honest, if Ten Hag is the price to get rid of the leeches, I would see him out myself.
The thing about Pep is absolute nonsense.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ited-Qatari-investors-make-bid-club-DAYS.html
Think the fact they apparently want to give him a HUGE transfer kitty hints that they don't want him to go anywhere.
Newcastle also got new manager when new owners came.
Yes, because their manager was Steve Bruce.
Newcastle hadn't won a game all season before the owners took over in the October...
Precisely. Few would question that decision, wouldn't you say? Though admittedly Steve Bruce isn't exactly Tuchel or Ten Hag.
ETH is the best manager available outside of Guardiola and Klopp. He isn't going anywhere 
It's hard to keep moral arguments out of it when a tyrant absolute monarchy state is in pole position to get a bid over the line and become our new owner. It will have a massive impact on the fans and how people in general will look at the club. Millions of fans will turn their backs on the club and I'm one of them. Any trophy Man United wins in the future with a dictators money, will mean nothing to a lot of people who's loved and followed this club all their lives. We will be despiced like PSG, City and Newcastle for the wrong reasons and be a symbol of everything that's wrong with football at the top level, and rightly so. How much money the Emir of Qatar has and what we could do with it really isn't interesting, because it we would be just another hollow sportwashing tool. This is the time where Manchester United fans really has the chance to say: "NO! WE won't have it! Not us!"
...., but do we?
This thread (And a couple of other theads in here) is the most depressing thing on internet right now.
I'll take a break from this thread now.
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