Probably the post where you said that she’s not doing anything, refer to what she’s doing as just ‘noise’, and insinuate whatever it is you do is doing more good and working towards an end result rather than her protests, even though she’s in the news weekly, piling constant pressure on politicians and big business, and inspiring millions of people her own age to also start pushing for change.
There's also the fact that a whole youth movement has risen up because of her. It still remains to be seen whether it sticks and these kids carry it into adulthood, but it has, if nothing else, energised a lot of young people and made them aware of the issues our planet is facing.
I think you should do some research into these guys, they're attacking police and are absolute scum of the earth and look they they crawled out of their mothers basements. Definitely not a good look for people that want to spread goodwill.
Could you do us a favour and link us some articles that back up your claims there, I’m having trouble finding any.
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...er-far-left-antifa-protest-turns-into-a-riot/
Oh right, for balance have you got any sources that don’t have a far right bias? It seems kind of appropriate here, considering the topic. I mean, far right media aren’t going to be particularly objective when discussing an anti-fascist organisation are they?
Here's some actual video footage of arrests made in Dublin, back in December. Tbh I find it weird that non extreme left wingers would actually get behind a group of thugs like this, isn't what they're doing more so on the lines of fascism?
I saw 2 people with a banner getting arrested. No evidence of women and children being attacked.
Nazis, the Alt-Right, MRAs and a whole manner of shitty, hateful groups exist, but Antifa are the scum of the earth.
It's an American article but it's referencing a protest in Leipzig. Apparently they were protesting against having their freedom of speech curtailed (their online magazine got banned).
Here's an article to go along with that: Three Arrests after anti-racist free speech protests in Dublin
This is characterised by your video as "Antifa attacking women and children".The Irish Times said:
I mentioned that she wears antifa T-shirts a few posts ago.
Probably true.
The anti fascists are the real fascists. Brilliant analysis.
They exist and they're shitty for their beliefs, but the use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims isnt exactly what I'd call the good guys either.
ANTIFA is essentially a label and not an organisation. Most are simply about standing up against fascism and particularly white supremacists in the US which is a good thing. I'm good with direct action as the rapid rise in the far right and fascism is very alarming and needs to be checked, but not with violence - obviously.
She appears to have been pictured wearing one anti-fascist T-shirt, once. Wearing a T-shirt that says "antifascist allstars" is not the height of horror you seem to think it is. It seems to indicate she opposes fascism. Good.
So as suspected "ANTIFA attacking women and children" was in fact two bloke being arrested for carrying a banner near a scuffle?
That’s a HUGE number of people. That’s my point.
So not ANTIFA then?
Brexit, Boris as PM and Trump in the White House proves beyond doubt just how many very stupid people there are.
Advertising does work. But it’s targeted. I don’t see that her message brings outsiders in. It may galvanise existing supporters. But there’s simply not enough of them.
So you actually believe Antifa is worse that hate groups?
Do you realise that the exact same logic you’re using, was often used by those who criticised MLK? That’s not how these things work.
Yes, that's my only point here, using violence surely goes completely against what they stand for. I'm in no way defending who they're going after, just the manor in which they do so.
Are you drawing any kind of comparison point between MLK and Thunberg?
Where do you draw the distinction between him doing ‘nothing at all’ and ‘more for humanity than Greta will do in her lifetime’ or whatever it was you said.
Comparable in that both were part of a great movement. The cause is not the issue here. MLK was seen as mostly divisive and generally negatively by huge parts of American society. The argument that their protests would be divisive, was made a thousand times. But those people didn’t understand that this was never about convincing anyone or getting a debate started. It was about equal rights. There is no compromising with such a topic.
No I certainly don't and if the vast majority do that, that's fair enough. Their willingness to use violence marks them out from many other left wing activists but perhaps I overblew it.
They both stood up and spoke out because the powers that be weren't acting on something they really should have been.
The reason you're getting such a strong reaction to this is that equating Antifa with the violent right is a common tactic by... well, usually people who prefer the violent right ("both sides"). Since we're on the subject of MLK now, the same kinds of people might look at something like BLM protesting on a highway and say "Martin Luther King would never condone this". But as has been pointed out here already, MLK was viewed quite negatively by the American population, and part of the reason for that is that disruptive protesting was a big part of his strategy.
Transparently not.
there are scientists who have been begging for attention on this issue. she has proven herself better than them at raising awareness.
Her main message is don't listen to me listen to the science.
I completely understand that and that's not where I was coming from at all, just didn't think someone like Greta wouldn't want a bunch of riots wherever she goes, but apology's if it came off badly.
Fair enough!
How is Combat 18 doing these days?
Keep on silencing free speech with violent thuggery, great look.
Excuse me? I was referring to free speech in regards to climate change here.
You are excused given your response to @nimic.
