Looks like a bit of a misrepresentation of what I said there.
Defending as a team has nothing to do with stopping a team from conceding goals. You obviously know that. That fool over there was equating the task of stopping a team from conceding goals, to only the defence and a keeper defending in an 11 man side. Which was never what I did or said even.
His job is to win the ball back and neutralize the opponents attacking midfielders. So that his back four has only striker and winger to deal with and no one else. Which is the shielding that the role is supposed to do. It's that simple.
Excellent point
Because he'll be starting the big match against Liverpool.
What, like when an expensive midfielder watched from the stands as Fletcher started against Arsenal?
Er - yes it does, Chief!
Har, I'd missed that gem.
No it's not. I said that its the sole responsibility of a defence and back four to stop goals being conceded. Simply defining their chief role on a football pitch. Nothing else. You however said that's bollocks because I'm allegedly saying "only the back four and the keeper defend"
. So who's fecking responsibility is it then? And don't you dare come up with the bollocks that it's the job of of the entire team. Because it isn't. Or every outfield player would be called a defender. Yes. In your warped version of reality. In the real world. The keeper and defenders ensure have a job which is to ensure no goals are conceded. While the rest of the team, especially the holding midfielder, simply help out defensively. To make their job easier. But this is all too hard a concept for your brain to grasp.
Because Ferguson has realised that on current form Fletcher is better than Hargreaves. But of course you know better than Fergie.
And that Fletcher is better than Carrick and Scholes too. Atleast Hargreaves is good enough to play at another position. Its time to pack the bags for Carrick thenBecause Ferguson has realised that on current form Fletcher is better than Hargreaves. But of course you know better than Fergie.
FFS.
Who is the main line of defence. The team or the defenders and the keeper?Errr Chief, the defenders and keeper are part of the team.FFS.
It was a misrepresentation, I never said that midfielders and strikers stop goals. I said if it was left soley to 5 men any team doing that would get mullered every week. I'll give you a scenario, a defender is caught out of position, is it not then the responsibility of Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves or whoever it may be to try and fill in for that defender and stop the opposition from scoring?
Irony is beyond his understanding
FFS...that was not even a serious post.
PreciselyI have already stated on the match day thread that Carrick is likely to start against Liverpool
Lizard was just being his spastic self as always. The likes of Essien, Keane, Gerrard and even Makelele have played at right back. Its probably because they arent world class too
By the way if the rest of the team help out how is it the sole responsibility of the defence?No it's not. I said that its the sole responsibility of a defence and back four to stop goals being conceded. Simply defining their chief role on a football pitch. Nothing else. You however said that's bollocks because I'm allegedly saying "only the back four and the keeper defend"
Yes. In your warped version of reality. In the real world. The keeper and defenders ensure have a job which is to ensure no goals are conceded. While the rest of the team, especially the holding midfielder, simply help out defensively. To make their job easier. But this is all too hard a concept for your brain to grasp.
But yet it was an excellent point.
FFS...that was not even a serious post. I have already stated on the match day thread that Carrick is likely to start against Liverpool
Lizard was just being his spastic self as always. The likes of Essien, Keane, Gerrard and even Makelele have played at right back. Its probably because they arent world class too
The moment you said that it is nonsense for the main job of the defence and Keeper to be that of stopping a team from conceding goals, was the moment you claimed it as someone else responsibility. There are no two ways about it.
Which was you being stupid as usual. I have not said only the defence and Keeper should defend. I simply said it was their job to stop goals being
Which is what is said. They have no other responsibilty on the pitch.
Thanks for stating the fecking obvious. No thanks for claiming I suggested that. For I never did. Nor will I ever
Yes and Yes.
Yes. He was pointing out how stupid such comments all were. This was clearly lost on you.But yet it was an excellent point.
They had no injury problems when he played right back against us. Or against Valencia in the champions league
No...they still had Ferrera and Jose decided Essien was a good enough right back. He was on the bench and then he played centre half when Carvalho too got injured with Essien still at RB.
He originally played right back last season when they had major injury problems.
So you want to tell me someone reducing the difficulty of your main job, at work, stops it being your sole responsibility?
Yes you did.
Hehe, I'm not embarrassed at all.
I think what happened tonight was hard for them to be honest. They appear to have taken Fergie's decision as a personal insult.
Actually he used to play it for tactical reasons. Because he was amazing in the role, giving Chelsea an extra attacking dimension from deep, at the beginning of the second half or just late in games. . . It only became a bit permanent when injuries set in.
Ralphie, where do you drink before a match?I think what happened tonight was hard for them to be honest. They appear to have taken Fergie's decision as a personal insult.
I'm not sure that is correct.
