So his legal team didn't get access to it?
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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EU Arrest Warrant have to be accepted by the other country, is not automatic
I know nothing about their judicial system but it is possible, in France you can be judged the same day "comparution immediate" for simple criminal cases but the defendant has the right to refure in order to prepare his defense.
It doesn't have to be one. I'm just questioning why you 100% believe the Greek police's side of the story, while you give Maguire's side no chance at all.
Obviously a one day trial is enough, that's the norm. Trials aren't like on TV. The only possibly unusual thing here is how fast the trial started after the incident, but that might be normal in Greece.
Not sure where you're getting that police testimony was the only testimony, did they not include the testimony of the at least three reported independent witnesses?
They only learned of the charges 2 hours before their defence. They weren't able to get access to the footage on time.
More balanced posting!
Why in the feck would we sell him?
Is he going to forget how to play because of this?
Nice to see the rush to judgement. If the charges are quashed at he retrial what will you say.
What??? On the Caf?!?! Surely not..
No sounds like Greece h handling English tourist who do not like their "service"fecking sounds like the plot to Taken
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Well exactly, I would expect that in any respectable judicial system, there are reports his legal team tried to do that but it got rejected. In that case I’m sure you’d agree that’s fishy.
Real talk the whole thing sounds like the Albanian mobsters and the plain clothes police were in cahoots to start trouble and trap wealthy tourists. Maybe didn't quite bargain one of them would be a famous footballer, or maybe he was targeted all along, who knows. Either way they'll probably still get their pay day.
That may be a bridge too far, and it's just that the police were confronted by angry British tourists and rather than listening and offering help they just did what they're famous for and thought beating and detaining them would be simpler.
Knowing who the hell was driving this van that took them to the police station rather than the hospital would clear a lot of this up.
That may be a bridge too far, and it's just that the police were confronted by angry British tourists and rather than listening and offering help they just did what they're famous for and thought beating and detaining them would be simpler.
Knowing who the hell was driving this van that took them to the police station rather than the hospital would clear a lot of this up.
They got nothing.
I don't know how people are taking such firm stances on such limited information.
When we see the court transcripts, when the appeal takes place...that seems like the time to make a judgement. Not now.
Right now, we have a small amount of information from both sides, and a lot of it doesn't pass the smell test:
The trial seems to have been extremely rushed, and if it's true that the defence were given just a couple of hours to prepare then you can see why it's being appealed. Maybe this will be explained in the transcripts, maybe rectified on appeal.
On the other side, the 'Albanian' story doesn't really feel right either. If some monster is trying to date rape, or abduct a girl - it's generally done covertly, a substance dropped into a drink...not two Albanian gangsters casually walking up in the middle of a busy party street with a syringe. This should be easily provable... because nobody on earth is going to be injected with any type of substance and not immediately be desperate to find out what it is - so there should be medical records from the same night.
These are things that will likely be explained in the transcripts, or at appeal.
Until then, as a club, we should support Maguire - or any player - through the legal process and not make any rash judgements until we have all the information at hand to make an informed, smart decision.
When we see the court transcripts, when the appeal takes place...that seems like the time to make a judgement. Not now.
Right now, we have a small amount of information from both sides, and a lot of it doesn't pass the smell test:
The trial seems to have been extremely rushed, and if it's true that the defence were given just a couple of hours to prepare then you can see why it's being appealed. Maybe this will be explained in the transcripts, maybe rectified on appeal.
On the other side, the 'Albanian' story doesn't really feel right either. If some monster is trying to date rape, or abduct a girl - it's generally done covertly, a substance dropped into a drink...not two Albanian gangsters casually walking up in the middle of a busy party street with a syringe. This should be easily provable... because nobody on earth is going to be injected with any type of substance and not immediately be desperate to find out what it is - so there should be medical records from the same night.
These are things that will likely be explained in the transcripts, or at appeal.
Until then, as a club, we should support Maguire - or any player - through the legal process and not make any rash judgements until we have all the information at hand to make an informed, smart decision.
Give them a massive statue of a horse as an apology.
Head's properly gone hasn't it? Maybe an early night would help.
Big clubs dont sell key players for stuff like drink driving let alone what the court called a misdemeanor.
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Firmino.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-merseyside-38827722
Did you not cringe a bit writing that last sentence out. I'd be amazed if you kept a straight face
It seems crazy how this has blown up.
Ultimately, no one really knows what has happened and it’s all hearsay.
Does it reflect badly on Manchester United. Not at the moment; however they may want to strip him of the official captaincy until further notice. A real captain will lead on / off the pitch, arm band or not.
I suppose the only thing you could angle at Harry Mags, is why he allowed himself to be in this situation. I’m sure that will be dealt with internally and he’ll be reminded of his conduct as a
It’ll blow over .... these things always do.
Johnny Evans and co stole a taxi
Dickov, Sinclair and Gillespie were banged up in Malaga accused of rape.
Leicester had the best season ever after “that incident” in Thailand .....
Ultimately, no one really knows what has happened and it’s all hearsay.
Does it reflect badly on Manchester United. Not at the moment; however they may want to strip him of the official captaincy until further notice. A real captain will lead on / off the pitch, arm band or not.
I suppose the only thing you could angle at Harry Mags, is why he allowed himself to be in this situation. I’m sure that will be dealt with internally and he’ll be reminded of his conduct as a
It’ll blow over .... these things always do.
Johnny Evans and co stole a taxi
Dickov, Sinclair and Gillespie were banged up in Malaga accused of rape.
Leicester had the best season ever after “that incident” in Thailand .....
What do you think is going on in a simple trial like this? Forensic evidence, continued cross examinations, Ally McBeal having an ex parte with the judge and Alicia Florrick delivering a powerful closing argument after her third request for a continuance got rejected?
Dearie Me.
The case is presented, a verdict is made. It's not a drawn out process.
You forgot he was just back from helping out the homeless and had spent the previous day volunteering in an old people's home .
If only those Albanians hadn't tried to kidnap his daughter and take her to be auctioned off this would never have happened
Just realised I’m still a newbie and I’ve been posting here on / off for 12 months!
More off than on, clearly.
No those were the charges the police planned but they only found out the prosecutors charges 2 hours before. There’s also reportedly evidence of these plain clothed police officers abusing Harry and his mates to begin with. Let’s wait and see how this plays out, it’s clear that regardless of what happened there’s an agenda to tear him down in Greece.
With all his money he should have gone to Saint Marie in the Caribbean.
On second thoughts he'd have probably found himself being investigated for murder by Ralf Little or Ardal O'Hanlon
On second thoughts he'd have probably found himself being investigated for murder by Ralf Little or Ardal O'Hanlon
Thst journalist and her mask
He's properly lost it in this thread. You'd think this wasn't a bunch of corrupt officials looking to get paid the way he's posting.
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Do you have a link about that? Sounds really ropey.
Only 12 months?
It was on the live feed if the independent.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...man-united-england-squad-a9686706.html?page=3
It was on the live feed here and various other news sites.
I suppose the issue if he doesn’t comply, was that he’d get arrested the next time he goes to Greece and face greater charges. Can you imagine if he had to play a UCL final and he couldn’t get into Greece!
Give it two weeks and the media will have found something better to spin hyperbole on.
Give it two weeks and the media will have found something better to spin hyperbole on.
the defences version is they were taken to a police station and not a hospital. IF she never went there will be no medical record
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_corruption#Greece
Even within Greece, there's a widespread perception of corruption within the police.
Has anybody noticed the similarity between Harry Maguire and Nana Mouskouri?
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