He is good at defending, though. I mean, you only need to watch him a few times to see that. I take your point, to an extent, but you can always spin that and say Southampton weren’t all that defensively when Van Dijk was there, too. Defenders can only do so much on their lonesome within the wider unit.
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He is good at defending, though. I mean, you only need to watch him a few times to see that. I take your point, to an extent, but you can always spin that and say Southampton weren’t all that defensively when Van Dijk was there, too. Defenders can only do so much on their lonesome within the wider unit.
He is good at parts of defending, aerially and physical challenges. I have severe doubts about him when the game gets stretched, his sluggishness on the turn and lack of overall agility is a problem when space opens up. He has also shown a consistent flaw in reading danger from runners, reacting late, ball watching. He struggles badly to get back after one of his bursts forward, or frankly any time he is high up the pitch. That might be ok when you play in a counter attacking team who prefer to defend the box but if we are looking to play a high line, dominate possession we would be exposing his main defensive weakness.
Fun player to watch, I get it, and the idea of a CB with his courage and ability on the ball is appealing but without a stronger defensive base I feel he could be fools gold. Hope to be wrong if we do sign him though.
Fair reservations. I’m inclined to agree on the agility front.
There have been a lot of ridiculous transfers in the history of football but if someone pays £80m for Maguire then I think it's safe to say that represents the apogee of inflated fees.
Dunno, I think that would be better business than what the scousers spent on Andy Carroll.
It would be better business but as a transfer fee I think £80m for Maguire still seems crazier than the £30m spent on Carroll.
£35 million!
And... you lot @BobbyManc spent £30m on Wilfried Bony & £50m+ on John fexking Stones.... how dare you claim any transfer is crazy
Otamedi went for over 40 before the transfer market went mental.
I'd say he does look cumbersome with and without the ball. With the way he moves, he would be given the 'has a mistake in him' tag immediately he makes his first error.
I agree with this. He has quite obvious and unforgivable flaws to his defensive game.
I’m not mad about this lad either. I really hope our scouts have their shit together this year and he proves me wrong if he comes in but I’m not overly confident in the work our scouts are doing to be honest. I agree with the idea a fair few LC players would make it into our team. He was an obvious transfer at 20 million and the quoted price is crazy for what he is. VVD was looking far better at Southampton even to the average fan.
Same stance I had last year on Maguire. If this is the best CB the club can sign we would be better off standing pat with what we have.
I'm against this transfer simply because it will confirm how stupid and incompetent we are in the market. For we could have got him real cheap before the start of the last world cup.
Do want, don't want.
I just don't no.
Surely there are better center halves available. But is there?
I just don't no.
Surely there are better center halves available. But is there?
I do like Maguire but not for anywhere near 80 million being quoted. I would prefer paying the release clause on Ruben Dias providing we cannot get De Ligt.
The same opinion as last year, anything more than 50m is a stupid price for him. Go for younger players, even if they won't come in as starters it would be better than spunking stupid money on slabhead here. I would rather be fine with giving Tuanzebe and TFM a chance even if they make mistakes.
I'd rather pay 80m on Maguire than 50m on John Stones to be fair.
I think absolutely every single club in the World would swap you John Stones & Wilfried Bony for Harry Maguire so there’s that.
In fact, 80m sounds cheap when you look at it that way
I think absolutely every single club in the World would swap you John Stones & Wilfried Bony for Harry Maguire so there’s that.
In fact, 80m sounds cheap when you look at it that way
To be fair, 80m for Maguire is a ridiculous price but a City fan saying that after they bought Stones for 50m(when the market wasn't crazy) is quite ironic.
That's where I'm at too. We obviously need someone who can come in as first choice, and while I'm not 100% convinced, it seems that our scouts can't find anyone else. He's generally got a decent fitness record too I believe, him, Lindelof, Smalling and Tuanzebe all do, we could try and sell the other 3 then!
Wouldn't be my first choice but think he's better than most of what we got so at least would be improvement. Him and Lindelof can be a good partnership bit will have me nervous quite a lot I feel
If we get him and AWB, we would at least on paper, look competent.
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AWB--Lindelof--Maguire--Shaw
If we get him and AWB, we would at least on paper, look competent.
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AWB--Lindelof--Maguire--Shaw
I'd be more than happy with signing him, think him and Lindelöf would be a perfectly decent pairing. Both good enough defensively to cover one anothers shortcomings and both good on the ball which would seem like a novelty after the past few years.
Regarding the fee - it's not my money I couldn't care less as long he makes us better.
Regarding the fee - it's not my money I couldn't care less as long he makes us better.
If we sign, I'll happily bet £20 it's Lindelof who will losing his spot in the first XI.
For that price, he better be amazing.
But they are both slow
there's a sky sports twett floating around saying Koulibaly would be the second most expensive CB in history if Chelsea bought him in 2016 for 38m pounds.
The fee quoted in this window is 150m euros. Just because we don't like it, doesn't mean players won't be bought for stupid money.
Smaller clubs are richer, they no longer see players as "must sell", they shape contracts to extract every last dollar, and OTHER CLUBS are breaking transfer records every window. Do we think fees just remains static in that kind of environment?
So many on here saying they'd rather try out the kids will be the first ones to crucify Ole if we let in loads of goals.
If he's the best available then go for him imo. Or defense needs something better than what we have.
If he's the best available then go for him imo. Or defense needs something better than what we have.
Easy bet to win. We can go head and sign peak Baresi and Beckenbauer, one of them will be warming bench alongside Rojo/Jones with Smalling playing with other. We are cursed and Smalling will bench anyone. In case people miss, it's a sarcastic post.
Perfectly put Billy.
I like Maguire, and I love that our transfer strategy is shifting towards signing the best (or some of the best) young British players, like Obi Wan and James. I'm all for signing Maddison as well.
I think absolutely every single club in the World would swap you John Stones & Wilfried Bony for Harry Maguire so there’s that.
In fact, 80m sounds cheap when you look at it that way
I get ya. But 80m for Maguire is utter lunacy.
It is the current market.
50 mil was crazy money for stones.
30 mil was crazy money for rio ferdinand.
He seems a solid defender.If they dont get Koulibaly this could be Plan B.
Pan C would be a Toby alderweireld.
50 mil was crazy money for stones.
30 mil was crazy money for rio ferdinand.
He seems a solid defender.If they dont get Koulibaly this could be Plan B.
Pan C would be a Toby alderweireld.
Of course it is, but that wasn't the point.
yeah great, he isn't as good as Van Dijk, he cost a fortune. So we either go pay 133m pounds for Koulibaly, 80m pounds for Maguire, 20-30 million for Alerweirdald in the last years of his "prime", or we play the chuckle brothers that shipped OVER 50 feckING GOALS IN ONE SEASON.
We are in a shit position, everyone knows we have money, no one needs to sell. We are always going to be fecked over by these clubs.
So in theory, either buy one of these stupidly priced players, play the chuckle brothers, or put an academy prospect next to Lindelof and pray not to concede more that 60 next season.
I think people are just going OTT trying to make the point of how insane the money being quoted it.
You guys complaining about him are all wrong. And quit with the fees already you bores. Football inflation as gone mad and we are always required to pay some sort of man Utd tax. It’s not our money anyway so pay whatever we need to get our targets.
Because Lindelof wasn’t a mainstay in the defence that conceded all those goals?
3 years since that tweet went up. We can't even imagine how out of control inflation is.
Great post this.
Since Moyes spell we simply haven't been negotiating in a position of strength I'm afraid. City seem to be able to do some reasonably priced deals these days but we're in that frustratingly weak negotiating position. We either go into next season with players who can now be labelled serial failures, else we risk academy players, or we overpay by 20-25m quid.
If we grab Maguire at 75m (25m overpriced) and AWB at 50m (15m overpriced), we simply have to suck it up and understand that six years of failure does that to a team. Much of that extra 40 million outlay could be recouped by selling off some fringe players or players that OGS doesn't feel suit his system.
if the choice is overpay, or go into next season with the same shit defence that has failed us for years, I say, let the fecking Glazers overpay!
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