Erebus
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It really wasn't due to tactic at the exception of Di Maria the players you mentioned and I will add Rooney were all on their last legs at this level. Di Maria still put good numbers while Rashford and Martial were very good.Every attacking player looked like they were done under LVG due to extremely rigid possession in our own half based football.
I’ve hated most of the last few years tbh.How gleeful are you tonight, on a scale of 1 to absolutely fecking giddy?
/thread on post 6In LVG's last season we were 10 pts worse and scored 16 goals less, and out of CL group at this point of the season so we have definitely improved but not significantly.
Glad you agree. It’s honestly become so poor. They can barely string any passes together and it’s like the ball is a bomb and they don’t want it anywhere near them.
We have, but is it a normal Mourinho short term boost for then falling apart in third season or in this case maybe even earlier than that. Mourinho has never been good at building something for long term as he normally put focus on short term results over everything else.Dont get fooled by recency bias. We are much improved.
But surely that loss shouldn’t have deflated us that much. How mentally fragile are we?Yes, we have higher standards now that’s why we’re disappointed, granted the last few games been terrible, but still we’re much better now, had city been like they were the past couple of years, we’d be first now.
It’s no coincidence we started played real shitty after we lost the city game, and the lead got even bigger. It’s clear the team is deflated at the moment, we should patient.
And we only missed out on top 4 due to GD. fecking hell that was a pathetic season for the top teams. It makes LVG look even more of a failure.Always think of this thread when I want a laugh.
Anyway, two-thirds into the season and we've equaled our goal tally from 15/16 - GF 49 GA 35 with 66 points. And, at 53 points, we're 13 points from equaling our points tally.
With Sanchez on the way, I can see us attaining around 85 points and scoring at least 75 goals. Massive improvements.
Yes we have improved but there’s room for much more..thinking back to the game plan v citeh , the Huddersfield game and the points dropped over Xmas .I think we’ve had a good season the points tally this time against 2 seasons ago prove that unfortunate the noisy neighbours have significantly improved which is taking away a bit from some of the good performances this season.Yes but more required to reach the very top.
Unquestionably yes!What have we improved?Our spine is much much stronger now,our full backs have the freedom to bomb forward,we have 2 terrific midfielders(still short of at least 1 more quality CM),we score more goals and we look more solid while playing a more enterprising brand of football.Plus we have been far more decisive and prudent in the transfer market...out of the 7 players that we have signed under Jose,5 have been unqualified successes(Pogba,Bailly,Ibra,Lukaku,Matic),the jury is still out on 1(Lindelof) and Mikhitaryan has unfortunately failed.Simple question.
What have we improved? What are we still struggling with?
How are we better than LVG?
This is another myth attached to Jose. It's so funny how not many mention the way he has made Lingard twice the player. Martial at this rate may have better goal scoring record than his first season. Shaw is slowly coming back to the groove. Rahsford has featured in every game and apart from last 1 month has always been in top form. And you say he buys ready made superstar and then mention Lindelof. Our squad is filled with many young, inexperienced players so we need ready made superstars which is what Jose is doing.The history books will look back on Van Gaal as one of those guys who hadn't the first clue how to manage a team yet somehow constantly found themselves in big jobs similar to Steve McClaren. Van Gaals success at Ajax and the Dutch national team had far more to do with outrageously talented personnel than managment ability.
Mourinho has brought a winning mentality back and saved us turning into new liverpool. Downside of course is his desperation to win at all costs meaning crazy talented kids get ignored and ready made superstars get bought instead at any cost. Lindelof being bought when we had Tuanzebe right now looks unneccesary. But at least he's developing Martial and he gives us a great chance of winning CL again