Standards what standards ? Rashford fecks up almost every game and still plays anyway. Hardly a surprise if he does the same for Rojo as well.
Having any kind of standards
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Excellent point OP. Unfortunately this is just one example among many.
The same way Rashford is allowed to take stupid fecking shots from free kicks 45 yards out from goal over and over and over.
First of all he should know himself he shouldn't be doing it, then we should have someone on the pitch like the captain or an experienced older player telling him to stop doing it and if all that fails then the manager after the game should be telling him to stop fecking doing it.
Same thing applies with Rojo. It's disrespectful to the club to just go out there and dick about for 90 minutes, trying rabonas and shooting at goal everytime you get over the halfway line.
It baffles me how stuff like that keeps being allowed to happen.
Ole probably likes someone not afraid to have a pop. Rojo is an idiot though I agree
This is a pretty fair point alright.
It's a terrifying idea that Ole is playing someone who refuses to follow the plan.
What plan though? I don’t see it.
Maybe it is part of “the plan”?
Found it very funny to be honest.
Along with us taking corners and one in particular where we were chasing the score when somebody moonballed it right into opposition defender/midfielder who started a counter.
It's pretty much clear that coaching and tactics are not really our priority so you will be disappointed if you are looking at some kind of standards.
Along with us taking corners and one in particular where we were chasing the score when somebody moonballed it right into opposition defender/midfielder who started a counter.
It's pretty much clear that coaching and tactics are not really our priority so you will be disappointed if you are looking at some kind of standards.
Pretty much. He plays like he's having a kickabout with friends and theres absolutely no negative consequence for doing something stupid like losing the ball in front of his own box or smashing a shot over the bar from 35 yards. Occasionally this complete obliviousness to pressure results in a nice flick or something where he's cooler than you'd expect someone to be in his position. But most of the time it results in giving the opposition the ball
A few after Astana were laughing at Rojo's performance.
I couldn't believe some were fine with it. He takes the piss every game and some are fine with it. Ole included, apparently....
I couldn't believe some were fine with it. He takes the piss every game and some are fine with it. Ole included, apparently....
Ironically Rojo was one of more attacking players from the bunch... that's how absurd situation is right now.
The football matters altogether are bit out of control and Ole's face through the match was a story itself.
The football matters altogether are bit out of control and Ole's face through the match was a story itself.
I personally wasn’t laughing, I thought he was by far our best player that game.
It's how you play when you just don't give a feck. There's no seriousness to your actions and you're just out there having a laugh and getting paid.
It's like being at a job that is going under and you know you're getting let go at the end of the year. You just feck around
It's like being at a job that is going under and you know you're getting let go at the end of the year. You just feck around
It was another annoying performance for me.
As usual at LB, he spent the entire game attempting his stupid shots and playing like the match was already won from minute one with his lackadaisical self. He may have created a couple of chances, but they came from his mishit passes and crap shots rather than actual quality.
I really can't believe he's allowed to just play like this. He wastes so many promising positions/moves with his sillyness.
Standards are dead.
Weak manager = weak mentality
Completely agree with the OP. Ole gives the impression of thinking as a player rather than a manager to me. He also tries to buddy up with the squad instead of instilling the fear of God in them when it comes to performances.
There is no reason to continue playing the likes of Rojo, Lingard, Rashford constantly when they aren't performing. Basically, the players know that they will play despite the bad performances as we don't have any competent backups.
Young players need competition. At this point Rashford, Lingard and Martial know they will play irrespective of how they perform. Same with Pogba. Soon that mentality will affect the new signings as well like we've seen in the past.
Basically, the club's entire management chain is weak and grossly incompetent
There is no reason to continue playing the likes of Rojo, Lingard, Rashford constantly when they aren't performing. Basically, the players know that they will play despite the bad performances as we don't have any competent backups.
Young players need competition. At this point Rashford, Lingard and Martial know they will play irrespective of how they perform. Same with Pogba. Soon that mentality will affect the new signings as well like we've seen in the past.
Basically, the club's entire management chain is weak and grossly incompetent
I didn't watch the game and was pleasantly surprised at us having had 31 shots on goal.
Now I know that 7 of them were by Rojo in the 1st half. Thanks for that noodles.
Now I know that 7 of them were by Rojo in the 1st half. Thanks for that noodles.
I can't believe Rojo is following instructions taking 7 shots in the first half.
As far as "the plan", when someone gets some space in possession they usually look uncertain, like what they're setting in front of them is unfamiliar or not what it's supposed to be. We hesitate, there is no sense of a unified attack, players moving into space at the right time to get on the ball with a moment to look up and pick a pass.
Because you still clap for him
He's labelled deadwood, nothing he can do can change the fact.
Knuckle down and work hard is just cliche, he knows his time is up.
Our managers are bad at motivating people, saf always makes his deadwood still feel wanted, and feck them off unceremoniously when the time is ripe.
He's labelled deadwood, nothing he can do can change the fact.
Knuckle down and work hard is just cliche, he knows his time is up.
Our managers are bad at motivating people, saf always makes his deadwood still feel wanted, and feck them off unceremoniously when the time is ripe.
There is a very good reason he keeps playing the same players. Our squad is so thin he has almost no other options.
Dreadful mess. Thin squad of largely average players managed by a clueless manager who himself is managed by a clueless chairman. Bad times indeed.
He's just another one 'giving them freedom'. We need a system not freedom. Licence to attack and bomb forward - yes, but not without a plan. Ole is just too tactically empty IMO. Not seeing anything in this regard sadly.
It’s a fine line though because most of our players are far too conservative
Rojo might be a bit mad but he’s probably looked one of our most creative forces against Astana and Rochdale and it’s mainly because he’s been trying to make something happen
I wish some of our better players would have the same attitude. Players like Lingard, Pereira, Rashford, Martial and even Pogba can be guilty of just ghosting around the pitch knocking the ball sideways. That’s not good enough, we need players who take risks in the attacking third
Rojo might be a bit mad but he’s probably looked one of our most creative forces against Astana and Rochdale and it’s mainly because he’s been trying to make something happen
I wish some of our better players would have the same attitude. Players like Lingard, Pereira, Rashford, Martial and even Pogba can be guilty of just ghosting around the pitch knocking the ball sideways. That’s not good enough, we need players who take risks in the attacking third
This. We had to go to penalties at Old Trafford against fecking Rochdale. You don't need your strongest starting 11 or an extra 500m for winning against them.
The standards have clearly fallen. Some are even okay with finishing outside of top 6 in the name of 'progress'. Which half decent player would want to join this mess of a situation, especially if we can't even make top 6?
Honestly, we're so boring and going nowhere, might as well have some fun. Give me more Rojo!
Anyone found it slightly jarring that Pogba didn't stepped up to take a penalty. He's a world cup winner and was our first choice penalty taker last season. It makes no sense that Greenwood, Fred and James took a penalty over him.
Or maybe his shots are flying in, in training and he has been given licence to have a go.
After last fiasco maybe it was a wise for Pogba to step back for a while.
I said that on the match thread. Hes either shit himself for missing earlier in the season, or doesnt give a feck. Ole did say him and 'Rashy' were the takers.
I'd rather we paid Roma to take Rojo plus pay up his contract, rather than them have Smalling. He is dreadful.
And Jones is equally as pointless for different reasons.
And Jones is equally as pointless for different reasons.
Also, he was not made captain. Instead, a player who has played for the senior team less than 10 times was. Ole is all over the shop at the moment.
If nobody at the club has had a conversation with Rojo about his random shooting from everyone, somethings not right
if someone has and he's kept doing it, somethings not right
basically, somethings not right
if someone has and he's kept doing it, somethings not right
basically, somethings not right
We are boring and, in general, one of the worst teams to watch play football, and have been for many years now, but I still want our players to take playing for Manchester United seriously even if we are a bit of a joke at the moment.
It's no surprise. Amateur manager with amateur methods. Us having 2 penalty takers was bollocks and he was just saving face on that one.
What you said was funny man, I wasn't laughing at you.
To be fair, someone has to. God knows we're not winning anything trying to play football.
To be fair, I don’t think it would be appropriate to name a player who, publicly wants to leave, captain.
Shooting from long range and from hard angles helps no one. Specially when Rojo did it twice in a row. I don't see Neymar do that, nor Messi nor Ronaldo.
Why is this fool enabled to do such stupidity ?
Fair enough. But Tuanzebe? The United armband has to be earned in some way. Romero would have been a better choice.
Maybe
. The OP wasn’t just referring to the shots though. And if they are an actual part of our attacking strategy we are really screwed. Even Darron Gibson managed to score from a couple of his.