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Surely 120k includes bonuses, no way he sits on the bench and earns that.
Problem is that if isn't playing regularly he his not going to be at his sharpest and increases his chances of producing an error that could scare ole into going back to just heavily relying on de gea and Henderson's career stalls sitting on the bench and his confidence takes a big hit and before you know it he's another Jack butland.He doesn't have to be the undisputed, clear number 1 next year, but he's being given the opportunity to be groomed and take over for DDG in the year(s) to come. This is the transition period for United and Henderson. Give Henderson opportunities to show he can hack it at United, instead of just throwing him into the deep end without protection/a reliable backup.
Signed a new one year contract back in March.Good try but i think he’s retired
He's still amongst the best PL goalkeepers. They all make mistakes and he's made more than usual for whatever reasons, especially because his standard was so, so high so the only way he could go was down.Consistency should be the bare minimum requirement for a United-standard keeper who is currently the highest-paid in his position on the planet.
DDG has made too many errors to be considered among the best in the PL and I think (hope) he'd be the first to admit that.
Fortunately I don’t think we will have to. I think he will become our number 1 and be a solid long term investment. But might have preferred a 4 add 1 deal anywayWas just thinking of that comparison. Cept we can't just sack Henderson if he doesn't turn out as expected. It'll be a nightmare to try and shift him...do we ever think things through?
Those are big what if's and it's up to the player to clearly be focused. Jack Butland also suffered from ankle injuries that hindered his career, that's more injuries stopping you rather than the mentality. Henderson's mentality hasn't been questioned, he's extremely driven and been driven to be the number 1 at United and for England for a long time.Problem is that if isn't playing regularly he his not going to be at his sharpest and increases his chances of producing an error that could scare ole into going back to just heavily relying on de gea and Henderson's career stalls sitting on the bench and his confidence takes a big hit and before you know it he's another Jack butland.
Huh....what does any of that have to do with this?Let us not forget that at the end of July, Nemanja Matic, aged 32, signed a new three-year contract with us. That keeps him on our bench till the grand old age of 35.
And in June, last year, Juan Mata, then aged 31, signed a two year contract with an option to stay for another year - taking him to the grand age of 34. On the bench.
Puzzling as ever.
Kovar? Henderson's only 3 years older than him and has vastly superior experience than Kovar. Come on man.I'm all for rewarding players that progress their careers, but if the rumoured wages are true it's sheer lunacy from United, half would have been more than enough, and if he turned it down he should have been moved on. He ain't all that, think Kovar is a better prospect.
This is a dammed if you do dammed if you don't scenarioTwo of our keepers cost £400,000+ a week in wages. Madness.
This is exactly what I was thinking and was going to say too, I really think that if De Gea does start the season as number one then it’ll certainly be his last and I don’t think he’ll see the season out as first choice either.Reminds me of when Courtois came back from loan and Cech got benched. Wonder if this is the beginning of the end for de Gea?
Pretty much. Best case scenario is someone buys De Gea, otherwise it'll be interesting to see if Henderson gets another loan, or they fight it out equally next season.This is a dammed if you do dammed if you don't scenario
Experience that won't help Henderson one bit the first time he steps out at Old Trafford is number one choice with the eyes of the World on him.Kovar? Henderson's only 3 years older than him and has vastly superior experience than Kovar. Come on man.
Surely Kovar will be in the same boat if and when he plays for United for the first time.Dont write Henderson off before he's even played for us.Experience that won't help Henderson one bit the first time he steps out at Old Trafford is number one choice with the eyes of the World on him.
Kovar is taller, better at coming for crosses, and far superior with the ball at his feet.
Yeah most of our reported wages do.Surely 120k includes bonuses, no way he sits on the bench and earns that.
if so then why did we give DDG world record wages for 4 more years? It makes no sense. Nothing really does with the deal makers at this club though.Ole must have faith in him to take over very soon with that contract.
I'm not, it's just that during his time in the Academy I never once thought he's a future first-team goalie.Surely Kovar will be in the same boat if and when he plays for United for the first time.Dont write Henderson off before he's even played for us.
You watch a lot of academy and reserve games I think. What are his weaknesses?I'm not, it's just that during his time in the Academy I never once thought he's a future first-team goalie.
Ah, was wondering where our stats guys were. You need to show these heretics why Henderson deserves the shot right now. It was starting to feel odd to defend him considering I was pointing out his weaknesses myself, but statistically speaking he's been impressive.Cool news. Seems clear he’s getting a run at the first team soon.
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Get out of here with your nonsense good moodBrilliant news!
So we've gone from wanting him to replace DDG, to calling the management terrible for giving him the opportunity and securing an asset??
More like nearly 500kWeird to have 2 keepers on a combined wage of 400k+. That’s poor upper management.
tbh a Jix that will gang around with Moysey must be a desperate Jinx!6 years wow, that’s a massive contract! Shows a lot of faith in the lad but also it shows he has faith in us that his time will come.
Then again, I saw 6 years and thought I hope that isn’t going to be a cursed number for us ala David Moyes.
For the youth team! Kovar could be better, but he's 20 and has never experienced and performed first team football in any league, let alone the PL.Experience that won't help Henderson one bit the first time he steps out at Old Trafford is number one choice with the eyes of the World on him.
Kovar is taller, better at coming for crosses, and far superior with the ball at his feet.
Not sure he had any obvious weakness, he was just a steady Eddie who I remember more for not being scared putting his head where the boots were flying more than him pulling off amazing reflex saves. And we didn't play out from the back so much when he was in the Academy so his limitations with the ball at his feet weren't as obvious as they are now, saying that Sheffield United wanting him to kick it long first-time hasn't helped him on that score.You watch a lot of academy and reserve games I think. What are his weaknesses?
It won’t happen againGet out of here with your nonsense good mood
I really hope. Totally agree re the contract. You can always renew.Fortunately I don’t think we will have to. I think he will become our number 1 and be a solid long term investment. But might have preferred a 4 add 1 deal anyway
Everyone accepts the DDG contract was a mistake. Do you just sit on your hands on the back of that? Miss out on potential top players? De Gea will be difficult to move on regardless of Henderson joining. Henderson will be easy - established himself in the PL and isnt going to spend 6 of his best years on the bench.if so then why did we give DDG world record wages for 4 more years? It makes no sense. Nothing really does with the deal makers at this club though.
2 years time either keeper is in top form and the other can’t get an honest look in. Who’s going to take over either of those contracts? Is this not a big part of our problem?