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How often does a talent like him come along in football?
Is it just inevitable within the next 5-10 years?
Is it just inevitable within the next 5-10 years?
Once, ever.How often does a talent like him come along in football?
Pele to Maradona was 20 years, Maradona and Ronaldo were 25 years apart. Ronaldo and Messi were 2 years apart.Pele and Maradona are 20 years apart. Maradona and Messi are 27 years apart.
So 20-30 years seems to be the cycle so far.
Agree if we talk about type of players like Messi, Pele and Maradona.Pele and Maradona are 20 years apart. Maradona and Messi are 27 years apart.
So 20-30 years seems to be the cycle so far.
Work out the difference in time between: Pele; Maradona; L. Ronaldo and Messi himself for about as realistic an answer as this question can have.How often does a talent like him come along in football?
Is it just inevitable within the next 5-10 years?
Depends what numbers, 91 goals in a year, 73 goals in a club season, 50 league goals in a season at his peak, I don’t see these being easily surpassed.I don’t think it will be that long before someone hits similar numbers.
Ronaldo is the perfect example of how luck pays into it. He didn’t have the luck of the others so is skipped on the list. Injuries like his could very easily happen to the next 3 players on such a conveyer belt of talent.Work out the difference in time between: Pele; Maradona; L. Ronaldo and Messi himself for about as realistic an answer as this question can have.
That talent (on all 4 of them) had them earmarked as potential all-time greats by the time Ronaldo’s knees blew out. Ronaldo himself was already being literally placed in best of all-time class by the time he was 21.Ronaldo is the perfect example of how luck pays into it. He didn’t have the luck of the others so is skipped on the list. Injuries like his could very easily happen to the next 3 players on such a conveyer belt of talent.
The players that are that good will be out there, they may be born in places with poor football infrastructure, have injuries, etc… etc… it’s a big pot of chance.
That's delightfully petty Pexbo. I of course meant to spurn CR7 here, since he does not sit at the same table as those 3.Pele to Maradona was 20 years, Maradona and Ronaldo were 25 years apart. Ronaldo and Messi were 2 years apart.
Of course he does. If there was no Messi, the conversation would be about Pele, Maradona and then Ronaldo.That's delightfully petty Pexbo. I of course meant to spurn CR7 here, since he does not sit at the same table as those 3.
This. is exactly why I still rate Maradona over him.If you are talking about talent, it is actually quite fast (every 5 years or so you get to see such talent). The key things are timing and luck. Messi benefited from coming into a Barcelona team which had exceptional talent all over the pitch, guided by a managers who knew the system. He was very lucky with injuries as well. However, if he had played for a different club at the start, I doubt that he would have been as successful.
Pele and Maradona are 20 years apart. Maradona and Messi are 27 years apart.
So 20-30 years seems to be the cycle so far.
Pele to Maradona was 20 years, Maradona and Ronaldo were 25 years apart. Ronaldo and Messi were 2 years apart.
Work out the difference in time between: Pele; Maradona; L. Ronaldo and Messi himself for about as realistic an answer as this question can have.
A better player than Messi? How is that even humanly possible?There will probably be a better player at some point. Could be in 3 years. Could be in 100.
If I could get this tattoo’ d on my chest I would.If you are talking about talent, it is actually quite fast (every 5 years or so you get to see such talent). The key things are timing and luck. Messi benefited from coming into a Barcelona team which had exceptional talent all over the pitch, guided by a managers who knew the system. He was very lucky with injuries as well. However, if he had played for a different club at the start, I doubt that he would have been as successful.
People have been asking the same thing when Pele was still active. Same goes for all the (former) greatest in every other sport. It's only natural that the level keeps rising and rising. A level of football that was impossible to envision in the 60s is now the norm. Once a limit is broken, others will follow through the broken ceiling. Until a new limit breaker appears.A better player than Messi? How is that even humanly possible?
I can get behind as good as Messi, but its unfathomable how can there be anyone who’s better than someone who is world class in so many different aspects of the game, on top of being a ruthless and machine like goal scorer for that long.
Maybe when humans will literally be half man/half machine.
A better player than Messi? How is that even humanly possible?
I can get behind as good as Messi, but its unfathomable how can there be anyone who’s better than someone who is world class in so many different aspects of the game, on top of being a ruthless and machine like goal scorer for that long.
Maybe when humans will literally be half man/half machine.
Pele was a number 10, Messi is far more comparable to him than CR7 is, because the fact Pele had the same physical gifts that Cristiano has people often misconstrue the type of player was and the fact he was actually a number 10 who would Influence both finishing and playmaking spheres of the game.Of course he does. If there was no Messi, the conversation would be about Pele, Maradona and then Ronaldo.
He’s scored over 800 goals in his career. If his career was 20 years long he would have averaged 40 goals every single season for 20 years. If a player hits 40 goals in ONE season they are called world class. He’s averaged that for TWENTY years. It’s preposterous
If Pele is part of the calculation, Ronaldo is in the conversation.
The topic is when the next player at that level is going to appear and I’m saying that two appeared in the same generation so it’s not a binary discussion between Messi vs Ronaldo and we dismiss the loser and say it’s 25 years since the last.