Could Iran do us all a massive favour and take out Mohammed Bone Saw now, that should count as sufficient retribution.
Iran v US confrontation
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Delighted.
Had his hands soaked in blood of thousands of syrians. Bastard
Had his hands soaked in blood of thousands of syrians. Bastard
Part of me thinks they only sought to target Abu Mahdi Al-Muhandis and by chance they took out Soleimani too.
Wondering if Trump’s military advisors are sweating profusely or cant believe their luck.
Because of his sick obsession with Obama .We are in this situation now.
He's a top ranking decorated general, not osama.
Any decent level iranian official would probably knew his whereabouts.
I dont know which is scarier. That they took a general brazenly, or they took a general by chance.
The later means they dont always know who's at the end of their drones...
That’s not really the best way to understand his position. He wasn’t head of the Iranian military, he was commander of the Quds force, which is a branch of the Revolutionary Guard specializing in covert international operations and reporting directly to Ali Khamenei. And designated a terrorist organization by the US.
The thread titles should be updated, it's a big news.
A terrorist organization designated by the us. The united states of america.
Yes.
That last line there tells you everything you need to know.
For the rest of the World we know who the true terrorists are and they have stars and stripes on their flag.
The US don't want to stop Iran and N. Korea from having nukes because they care about the World, they want to stop them because if they have nukes, America have to start fecking behaving themselves.
Yep, a North Korea with nukes is a responsible player.
Between them and the us I'd say they're more responsible with their arsenal.
Only one country has ever used them. And Korea have a big arsenal of weapons which they are rather responsible with as Sky mentions, are the US responsible with their Arsenal of weapons?
To be fair this means very little to anyone outside the US-Israel-Saudi circle. To the rest of the world he’s a contentious military figure at worst. The US’ take on what makes a terrorist organisation is hardly an objective benchmark either.
Let's talk about it from their point of view....
Yeah I’m just trying to figure out what’s being said there.
The guy was a legitimate target and has been for years. I'm more surprised the US has held its hand this long.
Based on what exactly?
What constitutes a legitimate target for state sponsored assassination these days?
Well there was going to be some retaliation, Iran have been goading America into doing something for a while with the embassy, killing the American contractor and fecking around with the Saudi oil fields.
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The clock for this stand off starts way before that. Try the 50s.
Expect oil prices to rise. Trump wants a war, I hope Iran gives it to them. Maybe they could do us all a favour and kill some Saudi Kings and prince's.
Pretty reasonable viewpoint. Not sure though what Congress can do to stop Trump if Iran starts attacking Americans across the Middle East and maybe even globally. Iran would probably come out of this looking like the responsible actor if they show restraint, could see them winning a lot of goodwill and turning the world against US-led sanctions. The latest noises suggest they will retaliate though and the video does a good job breaking down why.
Off course they will. And it won't be pretty and concentrated conventional war.
This will be a war of terror, if the americans thinks the iran are going to be stupid enough to start a conventional war against the us. War will be fought asymmetrically. Call it resorting to terrorism if you want. Only this time the terrorist will be armed by a full state backing
They cant afford not to retaliate. Anything other than a declaration of war will see their citizens protests and probably a coup
Can you imagine if US soc openly assassinated and the US presidents do anything but declare war?
Good times if you're a defense contractor (or have stock with one)
It's blatant corruption and insider trading. Those select few knew this strike before hand.
American tax payer are funneled into pockets of few in the name of defence contractor.
I don’t think their citizens will be yearning for a war with the worlds premier superpower, especially after seeing what’s become of their neighbour. If anything they’d likely be bricking themselves for what happens next and rightly so.
Iran will respond with their normal modus operandi - step up proxy aggression in Iraq/Syria/Lebanon. They’re smart enough to know a conventional war with the States is not one they can win.
I was just going to ask, which are the stocks to invest in?
TBH Iran have become more active over the last decade or so, I don't recall the above incidents happening much before that.
Also I don't think Trump deserves that much credit I think it's highly likely they didn't know the general was there and got him by chance.
How was he a legitimate target when the US is not currently at war with Iran? This was a state directed murder of a high ranking official if a country they are not at war with.
Imagine if Iran killed the Secretary of State just out of the blue. This is essentially what has just happened on the other side. The US is reckless and should be utterly condemned.
Only a few years ago relations between the two countries were much improved but Trump has made a political decision to pull back on this and create an enemy again for votes. It's a fecking disgrace.
Already has
They've been using their proxies over the middle East for a long time, I don't expect more than it being ramped up a notch.
This is my personal belief too, I think his military advisors are probably feeling a little apprehensive at the moderate to put it generously, I doubt they’d green light such a precarious assassination. No surprise he’s milking the bravado for all it’s worth mind you.
A question you could ask Soleimani many times over, not just in terms of legitimate military targets but thousands of lives lost to his actions. He has nearly 20 years of reasons and has been getting bolder. I'm not taking sides here, Im just saying I'm not shocked this has happened. This wasn't some innocent man caught out here. He was engaged and active in his operations against the USA.
indeed.
I can't believe some people are white-washing this scumbag's crimes. just because Trump ordered it.
People are more outraged with this POS (responsible for so much domestic and international suppression and deaths) being killed than 1500 Iranian citizens slayed on the streets in less than a week in November.
He was always mouthing off (very arrogantly) how he'll destroy USA and Israel won't exist another 20 years, bla bla....well, unluckeeeee