No, not even fit to shine Carricks boots never mind Makalele
Is Casemiro the best holding midfielder of all time?
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Of course Schweinsteiger played as a holding midfielder. Probably not at his absolute peak (in the 2012/13 team that you're referencing, it was indeed Martinez who played in a more reserved defensive role), but his MotM performance in the 2014 World Cup final was one of the greatest defensive midfield performances of all-time.
If you asked anyone outside of united fans who they would rather have out of carrick and Casemiro i don't think you'd get the same reaction.
as i said in a previous Post, i don't actually think he is. i seen a tweet stating that he was, and thought it was a good discussion, as i certainly think he has a case as the best 'destroyer'
I mean, Case scores at about the same rate Vieira did, and is often the one making runs into the box from our midfield....don't know where people get the idea he doesn't contribute to our attack...
Wouldn't say that he played as a holding midfielder, he was literally everywhere in that match.Of course Schweinsteiger played as a holding midfielder. Probably not at his absolute peak (in the 2012/13 team that you're referencing, it was indeed Martinez who played in a more reserved defensive role), but his MotM performance in the 2014 World Cup final was one of the greatest defensive midfield performances of all-time.
Gennaro Gattuso was the best. A little beast.
I meant a partnership where you have two midfielders well rounded enough to contribute in roughly equal parts to defence and attack.
Shortly after, makelele was fetishised for just being really good at one part of midfield tasks.
It's really simple: would you rather have Vieira and Petit or Casemiro and De Bruyne?
Bit unfair. De bruyne is better than Vieira and Casemeiro is better than Petit.
But something like Vieira and Souness vs de bruyne and Casemeiro would be a different proposition.
Not really, but i digress. The point of a defensive specialist is that it allows you to play more attacking specialists at the same time.
With the modern forwards being so much more coachable to pull their weight defensively it has lost some appeal - you don't need a great defensive specialist to cover for De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva anymore - and midfield roles are now more about in which areas of the pitch a player operates most effectively, rather than what he does
Is it what they called defensive midfielders nowadays or I'm missing something?
No.
John Murtough has been reading all this very carefully.
If he joins us, then yes
You're all fecking welcome if he signs 
Is this even a debate anymore?
ludicrous there was even a debate.
Love that this thread is a thing, yet people are still debating if a 30 year old version of him is worth signing for us in our utter mess!
I would like to change my answer to yes if he signs.
Hopefully
Clearly the higher ups read the caf.
of his time ? perhaps. of all time definitely no.
He will be if you sign him
He's gonna be now.
Great threadHaha watch this thread 180. Best of ALL time
Frank beckenbauer was the best ever
Is he going to be another Varane Mkii for Man Utd? or will he be a success like the Alaba transfer to Real Madrid. No one knows.
I think he has missed like 12 games through injury in the last 5 years. His body should at least hold up.
I always said Redondo was bobbins.
Or could fall of a cliff like Hazard who was almost never injured before his transfer. Let’s pray not though.
Yes
OP making this thread a week ago:
If he signs, yes. If not, he's not fit to lace Vieira's boots.
If he gets us a clean sheet against Liverpool.. GOAT confirmed.
Yes.
OP is Murtough trying to get fans blessing.
Graveson
Busquettes was twice the player. Casemiro at his peak would have been a benchwarmer at Barcelona for years.
He's coming into a club fielding McFred.
He doesn't need to be keeping out peak Xavi, Iniesta and Biscuits
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