Unfortunately, these are the times we live in whilst the world has to deal with actual issues.If you say so.
Unfortunately, these are the times we live in whilst the world has to deal with actual issues.If you say so.
Was probably told to.If he didn't make that connection why did he remove the post so quickly?
When images of apes have such a strong and long history with racism towards black people, it's pretty ignorant not to notice it.
I'm not saying he should be punished, but I'm glad it's down and he was right to do so.
There are obviously different contexts where you can and can't use a word. Making it out to be gorilla = bad and racist 100% of the time is ridiculous.I remember some poster here got perma-banned for using the gorilla word when talking about Lukaku on a gameday thread. Everyone was calling him a feckin donkey.
Maybe, it went down very quickly, but I imagine United have people keeping an eye on this stuff.Was probably told to.
It was so obviously stupid, and so obviously something that could get him in trouble, that I don't think it would necessarily have needed to be United who got involved. Pretty much anyone around him with some degree of awareness could have given him the head's up.Maybe, it went down very quickly, but I imagine United have people keeping an eye on this stuff.
True.It was so obviously stupid, and so obviously something that could get him in trouble, that I don't think it would necessarily have needed to be United who got involved. Pretty much anyone around him with some degree of awareness could have given him the head's up.
That was completely different though. If Onana wasn't in the picture and it was just Maguire for instance nothing would be made of it as the connotation of the caption is a positive one. The emoji was meant as something strong and powerful (As shown in the tweets you posted), the negative opinion of it is the assumption that he used that emoji because of Onana's skin colour and not the other meaning.
Is it a thing?This is absolute insanity that it's even a thing. It's a fecking gorilla emoji. Calm the feck down. He didn't call him a monkey. He didn't use it racially. It was meant as a strength symbol as gorillas are strong, that's how I read it. Anything coming of this is fecking crazy.
We need an emoji for that.ManBearPig
There might be a case if there was only one emoji but its there twice with both Onana and Maguire being at the centre of the picture after huge moments to win the game for United.That was completely different though. If Onana wasn't in the picture and it was just Maguire for instance nothing would be made of it as the connotation of the caption is a positive one. The emoji was meant as something strong and powerful (As shown in the tweets you posted), the negative opinion of it is the assumption that he used that emoji because of Onana's skin colour and not the other meaning.
Bernardo's post had no other meaning and connotation behind it other than to insult Mendy, whether it was just a joke between friends is irrelevant as it was meant to be something negative.
Even "private" conversations in Social Media are not privileged.Actually, it was. That's how social media works. When you post something on instagram or twitter it stops being a private conversation and becomes one everyone with access to it can see, interact with and interpret. That's why the rules around social media use are what they are.
If it was just meant for Onana, Garnacho should have texted or DM'd Onana. Instead he shared it with everyone on the platform.
Because it’s an image of two huge dudes captioned with two emojis of muscular animals.Why would it be?
Had it not been for the investigation I wouldn't assumWhy would it be?
I think banning people point blank for posting online and not taking into account context is dangerousI explain why the whole 'Isn't it racist to say this is racist? Doesn't make sense in the post below.
I don't think Garnacho should be banned, he deleted it when he realised very quickly after. But the FA will at the very least warn him.
Seems to me that the racists at the FA see it as racist while Garnacho and Onana didn’t. It’s only racist if you think Onana looks like an ape.I have no doubt about that - indeed, it's obvious from the context. But as the Cavani episode shows, that won't make any difference.
My point is how the feck could it not be obvious to him that he would get in trouble doing that? If Cavani gets banned for affectionately referring to a friend as "Negrito", what did he think would happen if he posts a gorilla emoji to describe a black teammate?
put it better than meBecause it’s an image of two huge dudes captioned with two emojis of muscular animals.
If you single out one of the individuals and say the emojis are both aimed at him and your reasoning for doing so is the colour of that individual’s skin, then there’s something going on in your thought process that recognises race above all other attributes.
Honestly, is Barca the best example? They've just had a board member post and delete a social media post stating the following about Vinicius: "It's not racism, he deserves a slap for being a clown and a joker, what do those unnecessary and pointless stepovers in the middle of the pitch mean?"
You really don't understand why people have an issue with primates, in particular, being compared to black people?Theres loads of animal emojis, who decides ones racist. Its bloody crazy. What if you put a frog emoji when a players French. Gorillas are magnificent animals, the strongest primate. How is this suddenly racist per se. Id fight any charge, Its his team mate his friend, its a complement.
The world has gone bonkers
Nonsense, don’t be so self absorbed , it wasn’t meant for you, it was shared so you could view it.Actually, it was. That's how social media works. When you post something on instagram or twitter it stops being a private conversation and becomes one everyone with access to it can see, interact with and interpret. That's why the rules around social media use are what they are.
If it was just meant for Onana, Garnacho should have texted or DM'd Onana. Instead he shared it with everyone on the platform.
Garnacho clearly just meant Onana is a beast and was praising him.
That word is also frowned upon by the way.He means beast...use it all the time. People are so sensitive these days...cancel culture is way out of control. Onana was a beast that day.
So there’s probably black people out there offended, which means this white kid needs to be brought down a peg or two to show how progressive us white folk are?He literally posted gorillas, Onana is not the only black person on twitter.
Yes. Gorilla's are notoriously one of the strongest animals. If he posted a monkey emoji, it would be different. This is entirely a non story.He literally posted gorillas, Onana is not the only black person on twitter.
Id describe it different. Id say Garnacho has demonstrated an excess of innocence. Now he has lost it though, as he probably has learnt that the intention of a comment doesnt matter, the fact that the person that the comment was directed to has taken it positively doesnt matter either. Now he knows that what matters is whether or not people with questionable abilities for critical thinking decide to take insult of it or not.At very minimum, Garnacho has demonstrated a shocking lack of awareness.
Oh come on…That word is also frowned upon by the way.
Yikes. Unnecessary commas, spelled gorillas wrong, capital letter in mid-sentence apparently. Gorillas because they are tough. Would you prefer a sheep emoji?Of course, it was racist, Why Gorrilas?
+1Honestly, is Barca the best example? They've just had a board member post and delete a social media post stating the following about Vinicius: "It's not racism, he deserves a slap for being a clown and a joker, what do those unnecessary and pointless stepovers in the middle of the pitch mean?"
Real Madrid fans sent gorilla emojis to David Alaba when he voted Messi for an award. Argentina fans, you know where Garnacho is from, sent Coman, Tchouameni and Kolo Muani gorilla emojis after the World Cup victory. Gorilla emojis were sent to England players after the Euro final. Probably 90% of the time is it used in association with a black person, it is not meant to suggest strength or dominance whatever in a complimentary manner.
At very minimum, Garnacho has demonstrated a shocking lack of awareness.