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I don't think I've seen a player get so much hatred for being injured (not the only reason of course but some nutjobs are straight up blaming for not coming back quicker).
If i put an eye patch on my eye, does that mean i only have one eye working effectively, he's faking it, it intially started with toe injury, and re watching the Rochdale game, i fail to see that he was kicked off the park, or attempted a run or tackle and injured himself, and it wasn't a reoccurance after a long lay off, or there was any mention of the injury picked up in training, over the last international he would of done light or no training, unless the injury was picked up outside the work place.They will probably come with cash + swap deal and if he is still very persistent on leaving and starts pushing for it, it will look kinda stupid for Ed to not take that deal if the player offered was good enough.
He's definitely injured currently though. He actually has been a professional regarding playing for the club, I will give him that. Though if he ends up leaving in Jan if Madrid really really wanted him that early.
Pretty much this.As unpopular opinion as this will be...
If Pogba plays in this side, under this manager, 2 things happen -
1. He looks crap - because the manager and side are way below the level of the teams that his true peers play for.
2. He gets slaughtered by the institutionally racist British media and fans.
The Utd old-boys network, particularly Neville, have essentially sabotaged Pogba's image in the British press - they have used him as a constant scapegoat to deflect away from their mate's poor coaching abilities.
The guy was our top scorer and top assist maker last season... and ended the season being verbally abused by fans and constantly singled out negatively by the footy media - how does that even happen?
Could you name another club, ever, where this has happened? Suarez at Liverpool got less flack from the footy media ffs! And think about his behaviour vs Pogba's!
Even now - WITHOUT PLAYING - he's the focus... rather than the under-performing players and manager! Again - think how utterly ludicrous that fact is.
It is a toxic situation for an individual player to be in, and understandable that the player wants to leave ASAP.
The reality is that Elite players won't be up for playing for Solskjaer - whether that's unpopular or not, it's true.
And if you throw in to the mix scapegoating them and verbal abuse from fans, well... yeah.
Yeah it's weird and pathetic now.I don't think I've seen a player get so much hatred for being injured (not the only reason of course but some nutjobs are straight up blaming for not coming back quicker).
This.Then why wasn't he shipped out in the summer? Makes no sense having a player on your books earning 290K a week (or whatever) and allowing him to sunbathe in Dubai whilst the team is in free fall (mainly in midfield).
The answer most likely is that he actually is injured. But regardless, what's the point in Pogba being here next season? A player of his level cannot continue at a struggling and in transition team like ours IMO. And I don't think we can afford to have a big star like him unless we're getting top class peformances out of him. Especially when he's an icing on the cake type of player.Then why wasn't he shipped out in the summer? Makes no sense having a player on your books earning 290K a week (or whatever) and allowing him to sunbathe in Dubai whilst the team is in free fall (mainly in midfield).
Whatever the case may be with his future, it has been strange that Ole has constantly said he doesn't want players who don't want to be here, when he refers to Lukaku, but Pogba who has publicly said he wants to leave is the jewel in his crown.
As good as he can be, I think it will be a blessing getting rid of him.
By shipped out you mean get a £200 million offer, I think the problem here is no one would pay it.Then why wasn't he shipped out in the summer? Makes no sense having a player on your books earning 290K a week (or whatever) and allowing him to sunbathe in Dubai whilst the team is in free fall (mainly in midfield).
Whatever the case may be with his future, it has been strange that Ole has constantly said he doesn't want players who don't want to be here, when he refers to Lukaku, but Pogba who has publicly said he wants to leave is the jewel in his crown.
As good as he can be, I think it will be a blessing getting rid of him.
It’s actually mental.Never ceases to amaze me how even with nothing happening, we still get new digs at Pogba every week.
Henderwho?He is injured - but it will be miracle if he signs a new contract. Sell him, Smalling and Henderson and get close to £160-170 million and invest that + an additional £100 million net in 4-5 quality players.
A goalscorer, 2 central midfielders where at least one is a creative player and one attacking midfielder
Our goalkeeper?Henderwho?
He's on loan at Sheffield.Our goalkeeper?
It's difficult to fathom that the club would even consider the option of selling Pogba in January, not with the midfield being so light on both talent and depth.When is his contact up, end of next season? You'd still get a huge fee for him, like we did with Hazard.
Also, the idea of him faking an injury is pretty bonkers, even for this place.
Forget this shite, he's a great player who wants to win things and be playing for a decent team, that's why he'll be fecking off, nothing to do with brand image. Being at Utd hasn't and won't do any harm for his brand image, its been an amazing platform for him, sadly we can't match that on the pitch.When we finish 8th or worse this season - he has all the ammo needed to leave. A club with a weak board and vision, a management that is all heart but lacking in creative and game management - plus a squad that is a mix of some talent with egos and average weak minded individuals.
Pog is marmite, but he is a marketable player who loves his brand image - so he will want to leave for sure.
It’s a fecking disgrace is what it is.I swear at this point fans of other clubs are nicer about Pogba than a huge amount of Utd fans, Ive never known anything like it.
i addressed that in the first part - the whole picture will be enough for him to move on.Forget this shite, he's a great player who wants to win things and be playing for a decent team, that's why he'll be fecking off, nothing to do with brand image. Being at Utd hasn't and won't do any harm for his brand image, its been an amazing platform for him, sadly we can't match that on the pitch.
This.Its Very easy to keep slating Pogba all the time....Why on earth would be even want to be at the club when we are in such an almighty mess?Hes a WC winner,he’s won many trophies in the past and he will more in the future if he joins Real or Juve...Why should he spend the peak of his career under clueless Ole?He'll leave in the summer, unless we have a miraculous change in fortune and suddenly don't look a joke of a team.
This sums it up quite nicely for me too.Great players are ambitious, and Pogba certainly is both. Why would any good player with ambitions stay with a club that shows 0 progress and is satisfied being a mid table team simply because they have a legend as their manager? A club where the management had proven to be absolutely useless and has no clue about football yet makes all the footballing decisions?
He had shown his discontent during the summer and we had the opportunity to show him our ambition, yet we completely bottled it by not signing any midfielders or attackers while selling a few important ones and wala, we have trouble creating any chances now let alone scoring them. The club had shown how pathetic they actually are and I don't begrudge Pogba if he made up his mind on leaving us.
This is what we should have done in the summer and now its inevitable. We are far off from fighting for titles and we need 4 or 5 players to even hope of finishing 4th with or without a new manager whilst the kids are two to three seasons away. We need to sell him to fund the rebuild.The answer most likely is that he actually is injured. But regardless, what's the point in Pogba being here next season? A player of his level cannot continue at a struggling and in transition team like ours IMO. And I don't think we can afford to have a big star like him unless we're getting top class peformances out of him. Especially when he's an icing on the cake type of player.
Sell him and spend on the midfield.