Because he's usually all fart and no shit.Nobody has went for Saint Maximin. Why is that?
For the record I have nothing against either Rashford or Joshua. It was merely a reflection on how quite good athletes are hyped up to be generationals when they either aren't or have yet to achieve it. Don't know if it holds true also for other sports like rugby, tennis and what not but I can imagine it's the same there as well. Also speak too little italian or french to know if they do the same.I'm not British and I've been in his corner since day one. I think it's that he's a good kid, at least that's what it is for me.
But I also think you are correct about the culture. Forwards here seem to stall out short of their potential.
You talk about him as if he's scoring and creating goals in the present. This is a guy who hasn't scored a goal as a starter in 16 months.. as a forwardHe also scores and creates more goals, outscoring AMS by such a big margin that if Rashford retires tomorrow he might still have outscored ASM by the end of both of their careers.
You were the one who said nobody who could afford him needed a left winger. I’m just showing a very recent example of a club signing a winger and not giving Saint Maximin a second thought. The man has 12 goals in 96 games for Newcastle.But this is about Rashford and ASM. They got Grealish who, when at Villa, was better than both. I never claimed that ASM is the best left winger in the world. If you wanted to buy a player right now and could pick between Rashford and ASM i would pick ASM.
The crowd used to go wild for Adel Taarabt. It’s a stupid example. Newcastle would fall over themselves to sign Rashford.Simple barometer: Does the crowd go wild whenever he touches the ball? Because it happens for one of those guys and not the other.
Can't really blame them, those players will always draw a lot of reactions, even if they contribute close to feck-all throughout the game. I don't think anybody's falling over themselves to sign Rashford at this point though.The crowd used to go wild for Adel Taarabt. It’s a stupid example. Newcastle would fall over themselves to sign Rashford.
Saint Maximin scored one more goal than Rashford in the Premier League last season. This despite Rashford starting less than half the games and having the worst season of his life.You talk about him as if he's scoring and creating goals in the present. This is a guy who hasn't scored a goal as a starter in 16 months.. as a forward
And yet throughout both of their careers Rasford has still outscored ASM by a factor of more than double.You talk about him as if he's scoring and creating goals in the present. This is a guy who hasn't scored a goal as a starter in 16 months.. as a forward
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This video was hard to watch. My guess is that he lost his confidence, and football is a game that requires a lot of confidence. I'm sure he's a good guy who trains hard, but like most United players now, he's shitting bricks every time he has the ball.Tweet
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Someone's been listening to Jason Cundy on the Sports Bar. Hope somebody gives him the 'quack quack' treatment tomorrow night over Chelsea's resultBecause he's usually all fart and no shit.
Today was the exception rather then the norm for him.
Its not just confidence. This guy has lost his ability to maneuver the ball around like he did 2-3 years ago certainly not for 90 mins. His fitness probably isn't at the level it was either which makes it harder for him to quick turn and shift balance.This video was hard to watch. My guess is that he lost his confidence, and football is a game that requires a lot of confidence. I'm sure he's a good guy who trains hard, but like most United players now, he's shitting bricks every time he has the ball.
Yes!Simple barometer: Does the crowd go wild whenever he touches the ball? Because it happens for one of those guys and not the other.
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Did you know he turned into a very effective defensive midfielder for Benfica. Really bizarre.The crowd used to go wild for Adel Taarabt. It’s a stupid example. Newcastle would fall over themselves to sign Rashford.
I understand you're making a point that you think it's more than just confidence, but you absolutely can lose confidence for an entire year.You can't lose confidence for an entire year.
I guess if you are going to have a limited end product, you might as well be entertaining while you do it?People would crucify Saint Maximin here - even today when he was brilliant he gave the ball away totally needlessly about 3 or four times just passing it blind to no-one. Its what he does - unpredictable, maverick brilliance combined with power and pace - but sometimes he can be gash because of it. Rashford just seems to have nothing anymore though. He looks a shell of a man at present.
All stats? What about expected dribbles leading to key chance per 90, more commonly as the xDriltKP90?The obsession with stats is a plague imported from other sports and is not a natural part of the football culture. When you see an attacking player creating spaces, beating opponents, wearing the CBs down, making his team better, you should trust your eyes and not go to google to check his stats. Some wingers are not goal scorers but their teams work better when they are on the pitch.
It's not that stats are awful. It's that the stats in this sport are incomplete. Iniesta is a prime example of this. Goals are dwarfed by Rashford, but how he helps the team retain possession, creates some disorganization in the defense by being able to operate in the final 3rd through his technical ability, his ability to play 1 touch football, his ability to slice a defense open, etc.. are all traits that make him the far better overall player. There are no stats that directly show this effectiveness, so instead you need to gather up a whole different set of statistics that point you there. For example, there might be pass %s, or final 3rd touches, etc... but none that directly show how valuable a player is to the team's performance in the final 3rd like goals and assists. Because they're so easily accessible, people will always lazily point to them.The obsession with stats is a plague imported from other sports and is not a natural part of the football culture. When you see an attacking player creating spaces, beating opponents, wearing the CBs down, making his team better, you should trust your eyes and not go to google to check his stats. Some wingers are not goal scorers but their teams work better when they are on the pitch.
Back injury has possibly effected his GAIT and acceleration that used to make him beat his man with ease.Looks so skinny, has he maybe bulked up too much?
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Or just injuries..Fame and praise have got to his head. In that video he played like he had something to prove. Now he plays like he doesn’t have anything to prove.
Yeah and burnout. He was ridiculously overused and played like more than 60 matches carrying various injuries. Now his body is fecked. There won't be any coming back. It's as simple as that.Or just injuries..
Might be misremembering but didn't Ole/medical team rush him back from injury when he needed surgery on his back or something? It also makes sense that any player would lose motivation at 21 when they are given such a ridiculously unearned contract as well, it happens to everyone at United, i mean Sancho is on what, 350k a week ffs?Tweet
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Injuries don't stop you from *ATTEMPTING* to make runs, closing down and pressing. None of which requires 'skill', just effort and heart.Or just injuries..
Yep, he hasn’t had one good game post injury to then blame things like fame getting to his head IMO.Yeah and burnout. He was ridiculously overused and played like more than 60 matches carrying various injuries. Now his body is fecked. There won't be any coming back. It's as simple as that.
Ofcourse it does.Injuries don't stop you from *ATTEMPTING* to make runs, closing down and pressing. None of which requires 'skill', just effort and heart.
By this logic age should mean nothing in sport.Injuries don't stop you from *ATTEMPTING* to make runs, closing down and pressing. None of which requires 'skill', just effort and heart.
In response to the OP question. No. SM is a far better player. You just have to look at a 5-10 game sample size
Yeah agree. I love him too but we should sell him while the stakes still high. It's probably the best for all parties involved.Yep, he hasn’t had one good game post injury to then blame things like fame getting to his head IMO.
I loved Rashford’s form pre-injury. Scoring headers and everything.
No idea what his future holds but maybe he needs a change of environment in an easier league.