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A range of xanax addicted presser secretaries are put forward nightly to express concern and talk about complexity. Meanwhile Biden thinks he is in a real life Tolkien book.
Given the decisions made and the rhetoric coming out of the white house it seems like he's more than willing to risk the election to support Israel.
Kill as many civilians as you want. We laugh at the world who believes our stupid lies and shit about human rights.
Of course, for Biden, blind support of Israel is ideological.
This is what many democratic voters fail to see. They are so used to politics being a game of numbers, pragmatism and calculations exclusively based on winning, they forget what it's like when politicians really believe in something. Biden is not supporting israel because he thinks it will get him votes, because his strategists tell him it's the best for his numbers or any bs like that. He supports israel because he believes in the zionist project for that area, it's as clear as day right now and the attempts at rationalization get more desperate by the day.
At least they will always have one last card to play: "yeah but trump would be worse". At this point, regarding palestine, given that trump believes in absolutely nothing, I'm not convinced he would be worse.
TBH I've said all along that I understand and would probably agree with those who vote for him as a lesser of two evils, but after this speech, feck him. Rot in hell. Irredeemable piece of shit. "Motivated by ancient hatreds" and "protestors are anti-semitic."
A range of xanax addicted presser secretaries are put forward nightly to express concern and talk about complexity. Meanwhile Biden thinks he is in a real life Tolkien book.
Trump will end my career aspirations in the US in multiple different ways, but he might put Biden in jail for some Hunter-related BS, and that's a small measure of justice in this world.
Is that not the case though, when it comes to Hamas?
I mean, they're not as explicit about it as the Houthi's but...
This is an extract of article 7 of the Hamas Charter and this is about as defining as it gets when it comes to motivations that come from ancient hatreds (and I mean ancient, try 1300 years ago ancient)
1. Hamas has a new charter
2. There has been violence from Palestinians towards Jewish settlers for about 100 years now, long before Hamas existed. For many reasons, I believe the bulk of that violence, including Ovt 7th, is motivated by the 2nd rather than 1st characteristic. (And conversely that most of the violence by these settlers against Palestinians is driven by their characteristic as existing inhabitants on that land, rather than being Muslim).
3. This statement is in the context of Holocaust remembrance day. Hitler and other Europeans did the Holocaust after many different European entities carrying out centuries-long violence repression of Jews, dwarfing the repression seen in the Middle East.
No. I'm not sure why you'd take a charter seriously.
The 2020 Democratic Party platform (let's call it their 'charter') says "protest is among the highest forms of patriotism." It later claims that "Democrats are committed to following the rule of law and will uphold the First Amendment right to peaceably assemble."
Do Democrats actually believe that? Of course not. It's just words, propaganda, etc.
Do Democrats actually believe that? Of course not. It's just words, propaganda, etc.
Apartheid state and should be treated as such.
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Biden would be comfortable with wiping out every Palestinian in Gaza. His brain is the most racist magic 8 ball imaginable.
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It's fine, they're only eliminating ancient hatred
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All 14 public universities, according to media reports, have been destroyed. What Israel has done here will go down in infamy as will all tethering their careers and whatever legacy they think they could/would have to this Israeli regime.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/internati...s-it-s-a-war-against-education_6592965_4.html
12, not 14, but the point remains.
What I find mad is you look at tweets talking about US objections to the worst IDF acts and you see countless Israelis accusing Dems of being Hamas supporters.
Despite all the backing and arms sales they still want complete impunity to murder at will.
I don’t get why people are worried about the Tik Tok ban.
The reason why the platform appears “pro-Palestine” is because young people are on it.
If its banned and they shift to a different social media platform it would become similar.
Which I think would actually do more good. Its all millennials and Gen Z on Tik Tok, if they migrate to say Instagram (probably the natural choice) you’d at least get less of an echo chamber.
Their views might reach some boomers and conservatives and just might help in changing attitudes.
The reason why the platform appears “pro-Palestine” is because young people are on it.
If its banned and they shift to a different social media platform it would become similar.
Which I think would actually do more good. Its all millennials and Gen Z on Tik Tok, if they migrate to say Instagram (probably the natural choice) you’d at least get less of an echo chamber.
Their views might reach some boomers and conservatives and just might help in changing attitudes.
Personally, I don't care that much about it. I don't use TikTok, and very likely never will. It clearly rattled some feathers in the US because of the overwhelming support of Palestinians on it. It didn't have, as far as I know, the same suppression of pro-Palestinian voices that has been happening on Meta and X.
I don't think it would make a difference in either case. The legal case would take years to adjudicate in US courts, during which Tik Tok will still be available. Nevermind all the other social networks that will continue to get used by protestor (Hamas have a Telegram account that they use for their official communications). If a non-Chinese company emerges to buy Byte Dance over the next 12 months, then Tik Tok won't be going anywhere at all.
I’m sure all those universities were just there for show, to conceal underground hamas tunnels. There’s no way the most moral army in the world would systematically & intentionally destroy a populations future like that!
The images today and yesterday from Rafah and Gaza City are as harrowing as anything we've seen before in this genocide.
There's a video of them shooting at empty tents today.
Yep and nothing will happen to them, sadly. No accountability.
David Lammy tells US Republicans he can find ‘common cause’ with Trump
In Washington DC speech, shadow foreign secretary says Labour ‘will always work with US, whoever wins’
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ns-he-can-find-common-cause-with-donald-trump
Worth reading the whole article, but Lammy gave his perspective of Labour's official position if elected:
Asked about the protests on campuses over the Israeli treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, he said: “There is a difference between peaceful protest of the kind Mandela would have advocated, and violence and rioting.” He added that he was concerned that the bandwidth of western democracies was growing slimmer. “I am outraged at what is happening to ordinary folk in Sudan, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, in Yemen, in Haiti. Why are we really not up in arms about these issues as well?
“I say gently to those who concentrate singly on a very ancient and terrible, terrible war that is taking place in Gaza: but let us not crowd out a lot of people suffering in our world today and underlining that the US and UK have to stand firm on so many fronts today.”
In Washington DC speech, shadow foreign secretary says Labour ‘will always work with US, whoever wins’
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ns-he-can-find-common-cause-with-donald-trump
Worth reading the whole article, but Lammy gave his perspective of Labour's official position if elected:
Asked about the protests on campuses over the Israeli treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, he said: “There is a difference between peaceful protest of the kind Mandela would have advocated, and violence and rioting.” He added that he was concerned that the bandwidth of western democracies was growing slimmer. “I am outraged at what is happening to ordinary folk in Sudan, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, in Yemen, in Haiti. Why are we really not up in arms about these issues as well?
“I say gently to those who concentrate singly on a very ancient and terrible, terrible war that is taking place in Gaza: but let us not crowd out a lot of people suffering in our world today and underlining that the US and UK have to stand firm on so many fronts today.”
“Violence was the only weapon that would destroy apartheid.” - Nelson Mandela
I think Lammy might be confusing Mandela with Martin Luther King Jr. Which would be very on brand for Lammy. Also
Lammy really is the perfect liberal
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A fecking ancient war?
Western politicians losing their fecking minds over israel.
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They didn't actually withhold this type and the IOF have been using dumb bombs anyway.
And it is basically using civilians as human shields. If you don't give us what we want, we will kill even more civilians
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The fact that Biden is saying this publicly and not through leaks seems pretty big, assuming he stands by it. The administration finally tired of Netanyahu and Israel constantly torpedoing any possible hostage deal in their desire to level all of Gaza.
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It does seem significant; let's see what will happen with the negotiations in the next few days.
I wonder what made him say this, there's a clue if you see his full quotes.
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Have a word with yourself - putting the hamas point in brackets immediately post protestors is disingenuous conflation