What did Fergie have 5 years in? Also I'm not comparing them, I simply said its crazy to have a sack thread after one bad season. Dortmund would be better now with Klopp, in 5 years Liverpool will be better with Klopp. I hope they get rid of him in the worst way ever so we can get him. No one is Fergie and never will be so maybe you guys should stop holding managers to his level and having stupid threads like this after one bad season.
Jürgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Sack threads generally pop up after 2 bad results for any manager, klopp is no exception. Personally I laugh at these types of threads.
But to the rest of your post, comparing Fergusons first 5 years when their was an established dominant side in Liverpool to the first 5 years of klopp when their was a league with no firm established dominant side with a lot of transition is also a very different scenario.
I also would say that your entitled to your opinion but there's no proof that dortmund or Liverpool would be better off long term with klopp as klopp has never rebuilt his own squad. He has built a team had success then didn't then moved on.
Would Chelsea be better with Jose if they had of kept him for another 5 years?
I agree with you but the thing is that so many are assuming he can't rebuild when he has never had the chance. I was only responding to a post saying he can't do that. I was just saying that we don't know. However considering how good he is I would err on the fact that he can. Also I was never complaring him with Fergie (there is and never will be another him, he is the clear best) I was simply saying that we are too quick to jump on managers now. Klopp has won a League and CL in the last 2 years but people are talking about his future? The only comparison is asking for SAF to be sacked during 03--06, which would have been stupid.
Like I said I hope they sack him and he gets the hump because there is no better manager for us than him.
Legacy shredded
They would be absolute morons to sack him so hopefully they do it
I saw a Liverpool fan on here says the lows are really low under Klopp, I wonder how long before the highs of the UCL and PL wins are forgotten if this run continues (and considering the games they've lost their harder games are on the way)
And who is at fault for that?
Didn't he walk away from Dortmund first season they were bad? Pretty sure it was him who said that side needed change and that he was leaving them because he has no solution to their form. So that's pretty much admitting he wasn't capable of rebuilding and being that manager. If he continues in this form with Liverpool I am pretty sure he will act the same way.
I think Kloop is done and he will leave at the end of the season.
For Pep, hope he will go back to Barca since they have a new president now and need to revive the club. He is the best candidate for that.
For Pep, hope he will go back to Barca since they have a new president now and need to revive the club. He is the best candidate for that.
Hope they sack him, hate to see him manage them.
Klopp in the past:
I wonder whether he would walk away?
Decent enough statement, all things considered.
If he doesnt make top 4, i can definitely see the owners sacking him(which they otherwise wouldnt have done if not for this).
If he doesnt make top 4, i can definitely see the owners sacking him(which they otherwise wouldnt have done if not for this).
Interesting quote at 2:10, I wonder if the fake mateyness has lots it's charm with Liverpool players.
He definitely seems the type of guy that once he gets on your nerves there will be small chances of recovery
Napoli 4:1 Liverpool
And now klopp
I mean, that second goal looks like players downing tools to me.
Writings on the wall.
He’s not getting sacked for a long, long time
He won’t be sacked but walking isn’t out of the question. It’s looking like two absolute shite seasons out of three for them. Gotta wonder what that’s like on his mental state
Doesn't his team always fall off in their 7th season ? Tbh you have to go back and good few years to remember the last time they played some entertaining football.
They'll be back on cycle next season, he just needs to ride this one out.
This is setting up perfectly for him to walk, then to appoint slippy G and then have years of misery.
Similar story with the third really.
I really hope they do it because he's a fantastic coach. Pep fecking off after winning the CL this season will finally give the other teams some hope.
Doesn’t he normally exit stage left in his 7th season….. he won’t be sacked, but he could walk in a few months if they keep not winning games.
Could be the end of an era. Not matter how much of a joke we have been for 9 years, Liverpool managed to get one of the best managers of this generation and still didn’t close off the league titles gap. They have been punching above their weight for several years. I think things could really go south for them post-Klopp and they’ll revert to being a Europa League team.
I want him and Pep to stay and let ETH beat them to the league at least once. Otherwise it would be "he's winning now because Pep and Klopp are gone".
In a few weeks, more likely… he is not a man to stay put and sulk.
I remember Klopps amazing Dortmund team imploding, seems like the same thing is happening with Liverpool now. Klopp once described Wengers football to an orchestra, his own to heavy metal. Full speed and power. That might be his undoing 5-7 years in.
Can't say I know all the ins and outs but I'd guess it could in part be down to motivation no longer being there. As legendary middleweight champions of the world Marvelous Marvin Hagler so beautifully once said: "It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you're sleeping in silk pyjamas".
If you combine decreased motivation to put a shift in, several players getting older becoming unable to put a shift in and - perhaps - hyper-dosing caffeine and overuse of painkillers slowly but surely breaking your players bodies down you've got a really bad tasting cocktail served.
Regarding the last part it's from an article I read a couple of years ago. Very interesting read.
https://backpagefootball.com/sure-theyre-all-at-it-liverpool-in-recovery-part-1/127058/
Can't say I know all the ins and outs but I'd guess it could in part be down to motivation no longer being there. As legendary middleweight champions of the world Marvelous Marvin Hagler so beautifully once said: "It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you're sleeping in silk pyjamas".
If you combine decreased motivation to put a shift in, several players getting older becoming unable to put a shift in and - perhaps - hyper-dosing caffeine and overuse of painkillers slowly but surely breaking your players bodies down you've got a really bad tasting cocktail served.
Regarding the last part it's from an article I read a couple of years ago. Very interesting read.
https://backpagefootball.com/sure-theyre-all-at-it-liverpool-in-recovery-part-1/127058/
This is true, I was always glad we beat Jose to the league at least once in his first spell with Chelsea. At this point I’d take a league however it comes though.
I honestly think with one or two transfer windows under his belt, ETH could challenge them. Nothing lasts forever, especially true in sport.
We have the same budget as city... With a top coach to spend it, there's no reason he couldn't at least compete.
In May, Klopp said 'book the hotel' for next season's Champions League final 
Now, his days are numbered at Liverpool. Liverpool are so far off the pace this season and this is down to him. He can’t even enjoy his last year in the champions league before finishing 5th/6th in the league this season. Liverpool’s 7 years golden age under Klopp is over with 2 major trophies
Now, his days are numbered at Liverpool. Liverpool are so far off the pace this season and this is down to him. He can’t even enjoy his last year in the champions league before finishing 5th/6th in the league this season. Liverpool’s 7 years golden age under Klopp is over with 2 major trophies
Awww… Gomez off
Nah. They can’t sack him even if they ruin their entire season (which they wouldn’t). Liverpool usually get into this underdog position every season and have a run in the second half of the season. He has enough credit in the bank to last a few seasons.
We don’t have the same budget as city. People assume we’ll spend big again which is defo needed for a striker but that’s no given at all. If we finish top 4 the Glazers will be happy to not spend big next summer. Also we need a new stadium, city don’t. We don’t have rich owners who invest. We have owners who want to cash in and sell one day. City don’t. It’s apples and pears.
They needed to invest in the squad heavily over the past two seasons. Klopp teams play a highly physical game style that is very taxing.
They didn't back him and they might lose one of best managers in history.
That bournemouth result was lipstick on a pig imo. Liverpool are absolute smeg this season
So this game is beginning to become quite entertaining to watch.
Tuchel is available.